Everyones talking about goku vs superman but what about these 2 niggas?

Everyones talking about goku vs superman but what about these 2 niggas?

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Not remotely comparable, Sonic is fast but not faster than bullets fast and certainly not faster than light fast.

It'd take Sonic with the chaos emeralds to even begin to hit flash levels of stupid.

Comic Sonic beats Comic Flash.

>Not Accelerator

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Speedwise, Flash has speedforce magic.

Powerwise, Sonic turns Super and takes Flash and the speedforce for a walk.

Do they get super forms? Super Sonic can't do shit to peak bullshit Barry, but if he can call for backup from Chaos Knuckles or Titan Tails then this is a xeeleestomp

Archie Sonic >>Super Sonic> Flash > Base Sonic

Game Sonic>Archie>everything else you said

I can prove it with facts

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>Look at a Sonic respect web page
>Half the fucking feats are "character says Sonic is the fastest"
Holy shit this is so dumb.

Recent Archie Sonic is protected by canon metatextual plot-armor from constant exposure to the CE. Essentially, the more unlikely he is to win a battle the more guaranteed he is to blaze through it (so long as he's within that single universe)

Archie Sonic is multiversal

He's talking about power levels, not story writing.

So is game Sonic.

Flash should win and would win, but Archie Sonic is one of the few speedsters outside of the Big 2 that would make for a decent versus scenario with Flash.

Game Sonic isn't rendered impervious to curbstomp battles by plot manipulation

>Flash should win and would win
Don’t get delusional here.

Explain Alf layla wa layla then

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When.

The speed force is broken.

Game Sonic was only debatably 'multiversal' against Solaris, and that required multiple characters going Super in order to assault Solaris in each individual timeline in order to even remotely inconvenience it. And even that only stunned it long enough for them to go back to a point where they could negate it at its very weakest. They didn't beat it with bruteforce.

Archie Sonic has casually undone multiversal levels of destruction on a far faster timeframe than what Solaris did, and has fought more potent multiverse-destroyers.

Solaris fucking suck ass compared to One Thousand and One Nights.

That thing (the genie of the lamp lol) ereased and absorbed ALL of the 1001 night stories and turned into the absolute god of that multiverse. He was about to re-write everything at his own will and he would also spill to Sonic's universe if he hasn't been stopped.

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>Recent Archie Sonic
There is no recent Archie Sonic, because Archie Sonic was cancelled years ago.

Also note that Darkspine Sonic wasn't even complete and he was still strong enough to beat him. Imagine if Sonic had all 7 of the rings to himself

I believe movie Sonic is fast enough to keep up with Flash.

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Which is exactly why Sonic would win, because he's so ridiculously outclassed without Chaos Emeralds. I'm not memeing here, like when Superfags pretend their waifu has the strength of "your fave +1", Eggman literally worked out, right before the IDW reboot, that Sonic had plot-armor as a superpower given to him by the CE, so that when faced with a scenario he cannot possibly win, he'd win anyway by sheer PIS & dumb-luck.

That's why whenever Archie Sonic is faced with someone ever so slightly above his paygrade, like a genuinely bloodlusted Eggman, Knuckles or Tails, he gets his teeth knocked-in. But the second Eggman comes up with a 100% foolproof masterplan to capture all his allies or warp all of reality Sonic will win solely because something "happened" to go wrong with his plan along the way. Eggman's solution of course was to warp Mobius into an entirely different universe so that his plot-armor no longer existed, wherupon he was reduced to his Game power levels & 2 hits from a motobug would instantly kill him. Tldr, Sonic wins because Flash is so much better than him in every single aspect

This guy is the anime speedster.

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Super turns Super Saiyan 5 (as he did when he fought Cell-Robotnik X in Sonic Z) and wins easily.

He's like a mix of Majin Buu and Hoopa Unbound Forme.

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>. Tldr, Sonic wins because Flash is so much better than him in every single aspect
Except in the aspect of beating him in a fight, kek

it's the other way around because Secret Rings came out in 2006

That's Low Multiversal at best

He would probably be able to restore the entire arabian nights by himself.

sure thing pinko.

That's stronger than any other Sonic. I never seen comic book defeat YHWH, did he ever?

>ctrl f hyper sonic
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shit thread

Pretty sure Archie Sonic has beaten Enerjak a few times, Pender’s ultimate echidna Mary Sue transformation. Enerjak apparently has power that transcends and controls the multiverse, which is stated by multiple people in canon to literally be an infinite number of alternate realities and universes.

Time out. We need to run the calculations on Roadrunner from Looney Tunes

Sonic needs 7 separate sources of infinite power to even break lightspeed.
Flash does that like every week.

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>The
Anime has a lot of speedsters

Roadrunner isn't all that fast by speedster standards but he adds the velocity of anything chasing him to his own.
Even Wily has outrun him when he was just trying to race.

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Looney Tunes is hard to quantify and follows different rules. Flash kept missing Michigan J. Frog's singing, for instance.

Sonic can deal an absurd amount of damage when he's channeling chaos energy, and his ability to generate kinetic energy from nothing means he's one of the few people who would be immune to Flash's speed drain (in theory). But he's just lot anywhere near Flash as far a movement speed goes. Flash does not have a top speed, he can literally always go faster.

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When are they gonna get a comic crossover?

Is this Archie Sonic’s greatest feat?

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He pulled off some other bullshit, too. I think he was able to run up some dirt he threw in the air, if I'm not wrong. However, his greatest feats involve multidimensional stuff, though.

Reminder that Archie Super Sonic was powerful enough to warp reality and a botched Chaos Control was enough to destroy the multiverse.

Wait, Sonic, you can't swim!

So he's the Flash but slower.

Erazor Djinn is still more powerful. No one wants to admit the fact that he turned into the YHWH.

Enerjak is a cuck, he didn't even destroy the universe while fighting Sonic and he jobbed like a mad dog. Erazor Djinn deleted a dimension just by transforming and wanted to rewrite everything. Eat a dick.

P. sure that was the Super Genesis Wave. Chaos control was meant to reverse time back to the zone's original state before Eggman sperged out

Super Sonic would ram the entire speed force dimension up Flash's ass.

His greatest WoG feat is something absurd like being able to visit every single planet in the universe, even the unknown ones “in the time it takes you to read this sentence” and his two greatest on paper feats which seem to back this up is when he traveled the multiverse to recruit multiple Sonics for a battle, twice in an afternoon and when Sonic-Man, the roboticized version of Sonic, completely no-selled Flashman’s Time Stopper weapon, purely by being too fast for it to effect him. Robotization effects strength and speed, but never that much, for it to allow him to pull that off, he must have been pretty insanely fast to begin with.

>in the time it takes you to read this sentence
That's slow. Compared to Flash at least.

That’s base form mind you, Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic just sort of throw space-time out of the equation when he fights beings like Solaris who are omni-present in the timestream.

For Solaris, it was more an issue of the fact that NOTHING could harm him until they got everyone together in Super Mode to strike at him from all over the timestream. Up until then, he was sitting comfy whilst eating the multiverse alive.

Alf Layla might possibly have more raw power, but Solaris has the better defense.

>Sonic, he's the fastest thing alive
/thread

>Reminder that Turbo Tails is canonically stronger than Super Sonic, Hyper Knuckles & Chaos Knuckles, but underperformed because "Tails" at the time was an imposter duplicate replaced by Mammoth Mogul
>Reminder that Turbo Tails isn't even Tails' ultimate form
>Reminder that Tails' ultimate form - Titan Tails - xeeleestomped a full strength Master Mogul who had absorbed Enerjak's power & was described as "the ultimate power in the multiverse", given he was by all means sonicverse's own Living Tribunal
>Reminder that both Flash & Sonic would lose to their respective sidekicks

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I don't care anymore, whatever. I still think Alf Layla has more potential because it's the fucking 1001 Nights, everything from the Arab mythology is there, including our fucking God, which Alf Layla is compared to in the game.

If this was SMT it would be wanked to high heavens, but because it's a shitty Sonic game barely anyone played no one cares. Just slap Universe+ on the guy and call it a day (despite the game making very clear each storie from the book equals to a world)

>Flash does not have a top speed

Neither does Sonic.

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If he can visit every planet of the univere in the time it takes you to read this, then he has a top speed.

Flash is literally 4D, he has no top speed, he can travel to every planet in the universe before, during and after you read that entire sentence at the same time.

If Sonic has a top speed, then no one has ever been able to pin it down.

>113579071
Depends on the version, really. Older Archie had a lot more bullshit because they didn't care to think about the implications of throwing snowballs at 100x lightspeed. Later Archie thought to scale his powers because other people like Tails, Knuckles & Amy were actually playing roles aswell, so his "top speed" was crossing multiple continents in a. matter of seconds for a single, as-hard-as-he-possibly-can blow (which Eggman tanked like a fucking beast)

I don’t think Super Sonic has a top speed due to time travel shit and being able to vibrate through dimensions, but base Sonic still Has some feats which we can base some calcs on. Once he’s Super though, it’s basically a contest of who has better infinity+ hacks between him and Flash.

>make a battle suit that was specifically designed to counter Sonic
>gets destroyed because it wasn't designed to counter his friends
>even though Archie Sonic's power level is massive leaps beyond the other freedom fighters, barring Shadow

That was still dumb.