who is the better character Yas Forums? i'm not asking who's stronger but who is better in your opinion
Who is the better character Yas Forums? i'm not asking who's stronger but who is better in your opinion
Well, Superman easily.
I don't think Goku is three dimensional enough to have any story that isn't the same "GOKU WANTS TO BATTLE STRONG OPPONENT" shit.
>comics editors eventually reduced his massive strength through multiple retcons
You clearly haven't been reading comics. They been wanking off Superman non-stop.
Goku who has the power of fucking ultra instinct and zenkai.
Loves and cherishes Jon Kent? Is that why he allowed him to journey into space with his crazy grandpa that almost mass murder everyone on Earth? Also why he allowed Jon to be kidnapped and raped by his alternate universe evil counterpart?
I'm a DB fan but I have to admit Superman is a better character. Goku whole purpose is that he's taller than life, when ever his friends talk about him he's spoken more of as a force of nature. Superman is a character, who when done well is amazing.
goku is stronger and unlike superman he has no weakness. goku would destroy the sun and superman would lose his powers or he would teleport superman to a planet with kryptonite or a red sun while not that need to because he has more raw power but my point is that goku is stronger while superman has no other option than punching goku. he could trap goku on the phantom zone but since the buu saga sealing doesn't work on dragon ball character. this debate is stupid because god is fighting literal GODS now and no they are not alien claiming to be gods like memeseid they are fully fledged gods with universe destroying powers
stop embarrassing yourselves and accept this
Saitama
At a glance, Goku. In actuality Superman.
>Implying Goku would weaken Superman on purpose
Goku would never ruin a fight for himself, and thats why he would lose.
>and unlike superman he has no weakness
Yeah, except not being able to breathe in space or under water, and not being able to stay in a powered state indefinitely. The depowered state being barely impervious to bullets.
>god is fighting literal GODS
A title means nothing. Thor is a god and he would get his ass kicked by Silver Surfer 9 times out of 10.
>supercuck
>sent to earth by his father after failing to convince a bunch of elitist retards with god complex
>fights to protect a world that hates him only to constantly hurt his heart and never getting what he wants. Does it because daddy issues
>has the toddler power fantasy of "having all powers"
>strong because alien, massive and constant retcons of power because they make no sense
>at the end of the day is just political propaganda
>GODku
>sent to destroy earth, goes against his destiny and cleans his race's name by simply being himself
>Loves his art, dedicates his life fully to it
>Has the power of "having all hair styles"
>keeps training, keeps learning, keeps looking forward to improve, you cant never be good enough
>at the end of the day is just a gag manga
Gag manga? Not since the Freeza saga.
Powerman wins.
Now delete the thread. Vs. threads are cancer because they always boil down to NO-U fanboyism.
goku gas ultra instinct and his power surpasses a god of destruction who can destroy ANYTHING
how can superman be stronger? he cant and he isnt
Nahh, good try tho
it went back to formula with buu. Super continued that trent.
are you fucking stupid? my post had nothing to do with your fucking debate
>sent to destroy earth
Strength doesn't equal character depth retard.
Raiden from Mortal Kombat is a god too dude, they're not that powerful. In the Dragon Ball universe, anyone who is strong enough can resist the destruction move. Frieza did it too. It's a form of ki energy that can be interacted with.
God, I wish
>muh ultra instinct
blanco doesn't make him untouchable but even if you want to say it does superman has his own version of UI
>A title means nothing. Thor is a god and he would get his ass kicked by Silver Surfer 9 times out of 10.
What are you talking about? Thor won most of their encounters. A mentally unstable Thor that was no longer holding back was shown capable of easily overwhelming Silver Surfer.
>Fights to protect the world
>destroys the city in the process
Good job supertard. Goku may be clinically retarded but he has the bare minimum of brain cells required to take fights to other locations
t. Marvel reader that knows his shit
>gas ultra instinct
Replace SS with someone else, my point is fictional Gods have had their asses kicked before. The Goku poster acts like Beerus is completely immune to death or even of being defeated. Being of similar power have been defeated by Saiyans that can be harmed by bullets in their base form.
In fact, Rune King Thor would murder Goku too.
Are... are you using the movies as an example? Is this real?
>retard goku gave senzu bean to green bugman that will destroy the entire fucking planet and risk the entire fate of the planet on his son
just stop
>get his ass kicked by Silver Surfer
ah yes i forgot the mighty power of the silver jobber
Mortal Kombat gods are only slightly more powerful than your average highly trained martial artists. They honestly don't compare to other gods of other fictions.
If you show me jobbing, I'll agree. And don't get so upset, I like Thor too. Cryass.
>waaaaaaa it doesn't count because it conflicts with my headcanon
nice cope superfag
Yes, and following this logic, fictional Gods like Beerus can be just as comparatively weak to an actual God. We're not talking about omnitient, omnipresent immortal beings here. Beerus is a being that can be bested in martial combat in his universe.
Not him, but to use the movies as examples is just a cope move. What if I used the Goku from the live action film? Would that be fair?
>speed watchers
>Risk the entire planet on your son who was the strongest out of the main cast and was the only one strong enough to squash the bug
Seems fine to me
yes because live action goku is stronger than live action superman
im looking forward to you providing solid evidence as to this not being the case
>ibn4 he lift a big house in justice league
Way to concede faggot.
This.
You have to be 18 to be on Yas Forums. Retard.
But we're not discussing the movie versions here. If you want to use composite versions, what about that time Superman sneezed a galaxy away or whatever?
You can't pick and choose if you want a fair discussion. And you talking about strength is ironic considering Goku technically has almost zero showings of physical strength throughout his entire "career". How can I know if he can match Superman in strength? What if the latter just bear hugs him to death?
even i a millenial watched the 1978 super film and know you are full of shit.
>You're right, videogames are enjoyable!
kek
*me
Uh oh
Holy friggin' BASED
To be fair, DC villains don't give a fuck about "fair fights" or anything about martial arts. Superman can't reason with Doomsday to move to the moon.
Superman is the better character
Goku has the intelligence of a kid
Look how protected the earth is superbros
havent seen powerman in ages
Wish the latest series wasn't garbage
>not dragging punching him into a wasteland far away from a city
>or better yet, dragging him into space since he can actually breathe in it
in my humble opinion goku would win because back when raditz came to earth he was stated to be faster than light logically speaking this means goku is much much much faster now and he can shoot energy beams that can destroy entire planets while superman's heath vision is not that malleable. i agree superman is smarter but in a fight to the death he would have no chance
Lmao wtf silver surfer, this is pathetic did black panther have a power up or something.
Superman has better peaks as there's more to explore in his character's concept, but Goku is a far better character for serialized content and doesn't have nearly the god awful plateaus that Superman has to drag himself through.
Superman is potentially the better character but Goku is more consistent.
You don't really seem to understand either character.
And this is just obvious bait.
Too bad nearly every outlier of Superman is retconed or never used again. If he can do that, he should never be untouchable, unlike Goku who can actually power-down.
Goku beats Superm-
>hey look its superman, he is going to save us al-
This thread isn't asking the right questions. Who cares if Superman could kick Goku's ass or vice versa, the real winner of that fight would be whoever the writer wanted to see win, because they're fictional fucking characters who are subject to the writer's whims.
The real question should be this. Who's more obnoxious, Superman powerwankers or Goku powerwankers? Just going by this thread I'd say the Superman defense force is, but if you threw Goku's spic fans and Gohanfags into the mix I think it'd be a fairly even playing field.
this
Bendishit isnt canon