>"It was before we started production, but it was not well handled," said Routh. "So that has been something my wife and I are both still working through. It’s been a huge transition time for us, these last 8, 9, 10 months. Going in, I wondered how was I going to find the joy in it, knowing this thing was looming. But I worked to just be with the crew that had become my family and the cast that had become my family, and experience that, and just be there in the interactions with the people."
>"What I try to do at work is go to work and try to enjoy my time on set," added Routh. "You don’t know what the end product is going to be. You’re also talking about loss, so we’re going back to that — loss of my family for the last five years, and the character that I played for six years. I filmed my last episodes in the Arrowverse and as Ray Palmer. And that was a very traumatic event for me. It was not something I was expecting, it was shocking."
>Routh also elaborated on Ray's departure's lack of comics accuracy. "In the comic book world, Ray Palmer disappears" he explained, "But he leaves his belt behind, which is in the comics how he has the power to shrink, and this young man, Ryan Choi, takes over and becomes the new Atom. That's not what happens with Ray... He doesn't get lost into the multiverse. We're not following the comic book structure."
>When asked if he would be willing to appear further down the line as many other former cast members have over the years, Routh simply stated "That's the kind of bridge that I will decide to cross when I get there."
I've cut everything except Black Lightning, what happened and how did it suck so much that it pissed off Routh after all the other nonsense they've done
Nicholas Johnson
My guess is that they needed to cut the budget and Routh probably has one of the higher paychecks on the show. No reason to keep his wife around after that so she can go, too.
Which I imagine would piss him off. You're not getting fired because of your work or because of story reasons, they just decided they don't want you anymore.
Justin Richardson
>>Routh also elaborated on Ray's departure's lack of comics accuracy. "In the comic book world, Ray Palmer disappears" he explained, "But he leaves his belt behind, which is in the comics how he has the power to shrink, and this young man, Ryan Choi, takes over and becomes the new Atom. That's not what happens with Ray... He doesn't get lost into the multiverse. We're not following the comic book structure."
I was kind of hoping they'd at least reference Sword of the Atom and leave Ray and Nora in a village of lilliputians, but the implication is that they don't even get that much dignity.
Also it doesn't sound like they're going to even try to justify introducing Ryan Choi in Crisis. Fuck these producers with a rake.
Luis Ward
I'm sure that they still have plans for Ryan, but one of of the main reasons why they're getting rid of Routh is due to how expensive the Atom suit and powers is, so they won't keep it around just with a cheaper actor.
Lincoln Perry
If they don't want to put fucking effort into adapting comics, then don't adapt comics. We're all tired of "COSPLAY SOAP OPERA" because their creativity and budget limitations.
Jason Smith
I like how Routh knows what's up with Ray in the comics.
Jacob Morgan
I feel for the guy. Him and his wife are fan favorites. Its definitely nothing he did. Like other anons said its probably all down to a paycheck. Honestly, how many more seasons does this show have? I figure they'll get it over the 100 episode hump and it'll be gone not long after that.
Curious what they'll do with Supergirl now that Melissa is pregnant.
Nathaniel Foster
Just like Superman, he really seems to resonate with these characters. Dude was born to play a hero. I could see him having a couple longboxes.
Angel Gonzalez
Hopefully cancel it. Flash, Legends and Supergirl should just stop.
Jeremiah Stewart
Should had just given him a costume and just shrinking powers then. Who the hell told them to turn the Atom into a poorman's Iron-man that can occasionally shrink?
Anthony Diaz
That's the least his agent can do for him.
Nolan Sanchez
I think CW would die if they did that because these shows and IPs are all they have. So they won't willingly cancel all them, not when they sell their streaming rights off and make a lot of money. Some of them do feel like they can go though. And probably will to make room for other spinoffs.
Logan Cook
They have to work with what they have. The Atom suit was an affordable prop in 2013, when they had two running shows. Now they have five, soon to be seven.
Thomas Bell
Guess I need to listen to that Inside of You pod episode already. Lex does do a pretty good job with it, even if he's neurotic as all hell.
Matthew Walker
The Flash is still their most popular show, and LoT is a critical darling, so those will stick around for a long, long time, unless Grant Gustin or Caity Lotz and/or Nick Zano quit.
Benjamin Robinson
They have a few original shows that do well like teen dramas like Riverdale, All American and the 100. In The Dark is a bit more mature but was also picked up for a 3rd season. And they've rebooted Roswell and Charmed. So they can exist without cape shit but they should honestly trim the fat and just have Black Lightning and Batwoman and give new shows like that Stargirl one coming out and reboot Constantine or something
Mason Fisher
That's a shame, Routh is a stand-up guy.
He gives a damn. Really. The dude didn't deserve this.
Eli Cooper
Ray was originally supposed to be Ted Kord. When they had to switch out the characters due to WB's embargoes, it was too late to change the scripts.
As you remember, he only started shrinking in season 4.
Those do nowhere near as well. There is a reason there is so many at this point. Its a big part of their business model. Its really streaming rights that are keeping it afloat.
Xavier Barnes
Dodged a big bullet there. I can only imagine how they would ruin of the best costumes in comic.
Robert Diaz
Routh was always the most expensive cast member on the show, being a movie actor, and when he became the less screen time using but lovable supporting comedic relief there’s just no justification to his salary after a certain point.
James Young
I think they would have pulled it off better than an armored Atom suit.
Sorry user I havent seen it but it's a new show which means with the right crew it could have potential. Old shows set in their ways are harder to change
Luke Rodriguez
LoT is not a critical darling, that term doesnt even really apply to network tv since they have nothing to gain from such a show, unlike premium cable tv like HBO or movie studios with movies.
Wyatt Young
You have awful taste
Carter Nguyen
So you’re just talking out of your ass. Typical Yas Forums
Carson Scott
>LoT is not a critical darling
It unironically is.
Aaron Peterson
Thanks user
Caleb Williams
No it's fucking not. Also who in their right mind gives a fucking rat's ass what """"""""""""""""critics"""""""""""""""" think?
Andrew Anderson
Not him but I've seen at least a half dozen articles calling it the best superhero show on tv. I mean, it's never going to award show worthy, thats an extreme, but it is well liked.
James Johnson
One of the things that bothers me the most is this need they feel to kill off characters in live actions just because the actor is leaving. Just let them go off screen, jeez.
Jacob Lee
Yes, it is.
Also stop moving goalposts.
Blake Foster
LoT only killed Rip Hunter, Captain Cold and Professor Stein, though. The Hawks, Vixen, Kid Flash and Firestorm all rode off into the sunset, and Ray and Nora are going to as well.
Jackson Hall
No, it's pretty obvious. The network ratings as a whole are abysmally small. But they made a billion or more the last deal with Netflix for streaming rights. Big IPs, especially cape ones which are all the rage right now are the reason why. But whatever I'm sure they'll make a connected universe out of fucking Roswell and survive.
William Moore
No it's not. And """"""""""""""""moving goalposts"""""""""""""""" is how Internet discussions work.
Parker Anderson
It is, though.
And it signals weakness.
Carter Cox
Well he's right in that the Arrowverse shows help garner attention for streaming deals with places like Netflix. A bulk of their ratings are made in streaming and DVR views. CW is going to shop shows individually now though and not re upping with Netflix.
The biggest factor for a lot of these shows though is if they can reach episode 100 which is ideal for syndication. Cape shit is probably super easy to do that with especially since big shows like Supernatural are done. Sometimes they'll throw a bone to a show that's close like Nikita with Maggie Q and give it an extra season or two just to reach those numbers or episodes and make it ideal for syndication and streaming
Jason Garcia
So we're just allowed to call anything traumatic now, huh? A rich dude is leaving his job and got sad? I read that title and thought they had beat and raped him before firing him.
Eli Howard
>it signals weakness On pl*bb*t maybe. Not on glorious Yas Forums.
James Lopez
>implying they didn't They probably fucked him while he wore the suit too
Adam Robinson
CWverse has been shit since the very beginning, not sure why anyone suddenly cares now.
Nolan Wilson
>Roswell That one show from the early 2000s or there's a new one?
It really boggles my mind why they'd get rid of one of the last OG's and a fan favorite in Ray.
Daniel Evans
>Supernatural >Ending >Ever >EVER!
Luis Davis
It's unironically ending is May.
Jason Thompson
No, that's just the weekly orgies the LoT cast participate in.
Kevin Turner
Wait what was traumatic about this? I thought the actors wife or son died for whatever reason
Robert Powell
I love haircut deeply, he is best boy. But the show clearly has no fucking idea what to do with him anymore.
Dylan Wood
>Routh probably has one of the higher paychecks on the show. But. Fucking. Why? His IMDB page doesn't seem to make him all that big.
Owen Lopez
He's a long-standing cast member from the early Arrow years when they had bigger budgets and he's likely had a yearly increase. 5 years of raises on top of higher initial salary vs hiring a new actor on a low salary. $$$$$$ v $
Noah Garcia
After watching this video I've stopped watching all CW shows.
Flash is actually good again this year. Not season one level good, but the best since then. Enough that the new cast (Ralph and Chunk esp) are really shining.
Dylan Miller
Sadly Caity, Matt and Dom are leaving this season too. Nick, Zari, StonerBro, Charlie and Gary are the only regulars returning for the next season.
Ethan Lewis
eh, I tried a few episodes around Crisis and Iris pisses me off too much, she's hogging the entire show. what? Caity is leaving? Why is she leaving? She just started working behind the camera too
Christopher Torres
I'd have more respect if you did it for more legitimate reasons seasons ago. And really, Supergirl has always been the worst at the SJW and man hating posturing, so its hardly a secret or news. I dropped most of the shows years ago and it didn't take Felix raging from a cringe compilation of Supergirl to do so either.
