How does religion work in SU's worldbuilding?

>it's been long assumed that religion did not exist in the show before Patricia's appearance
>Matt Burnett has also claimed that Christianity does not exist in the show's world (he has deleted all his SU tweets years ago however)
>Islam itself has built off of Christianity with its various mentions of Jesus and other biblical figures, showing that various biblical elements were essential in Islam's existence to begin with
>and as for the elephant in the room, Islam forbids homosexuality, so what place would such a religion have in a world now inhabited by space lesbians?

We all know that the Crewniverse made a Muslim character simply for diversity points, and while that's a different discussion by itself, I just want to discuss how this effects the actual worldbuilding of the show.

Was she thrown in thoughtlessly and ended up breaking the worldbuilding as a result, or was there some degree of thought here before her inclusion?

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It's a background character for inclusion points, that's it.
Islam in the context of progressive values is seen as a race and not a religion.

Nothing about the worldbuilding makes a modicum of sense if you take any of their statements about how their universe works at face value.

American comics and cartoons have a huge fetish for hijabs, so they're gonna get shoved in as many places as possible

Hijabs predate Islam and is ultimately cultural. They were desert nomads, user, they wore that to protect them from the desert.

Literally wearing a fucking scarf around your head was around before islam. Obviously from a meta perspective it's muslim representation but in universe it's probably just a fashion thing.

well i didn't see a fucking desert

That woman is autistic and acutely sensitive to light so she wore a scarf around her head.

Why would you need to see a fucking desert when I'm explaining norms established by her ancestors you retard?

Then how come your vagina is so full of sand?

You for real? One of the earliest SU episodes (where Steven meets Lion) is set in a desert. Anyway this is retarded Yas Forums bait because they're clearly not labelled as Muslim and are just wearing a hijab which has nothing to do with the faith aspect.

The hajib is cultural. It's still mainly used as a tool to control women though because it's design can be tra ed back to ancient Greece and there are better desert hats than a tight fitting headscarf.

So arabs just oppress women on a secular cultural basis instead of religion

Let's be honest here, most regards that like the hijab and advocate it think it's irreligious and that preventing it is an "attack on islam" despite the fact that nothing in the Qur'an mentions hijabs.

And the same people ignore the fact that it does in fact say men should cover up their arms and whatnot.

Yeah like how we oppress women by forcing them to wear shirts. Why do we literally criminalize topless women? It's oppression pure and simple.

>which has nothing to do with the faith aspect

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>nothing in the Qur'an mentions hijabs.
If I could nitpick, there is a verse that says women should dress modestly, and it uses "a scarf covering the head and breasts" as an example of modest clothing, but many people interpret that as meaning "Whatever clothes is considered modest, women should wear that" rather than specifically enforcing a scarf covering the head and bosom.

Tops are simply practical; forcing women to cover their hair because you consider it vanity or lustful is retarded.

I have a friend that looks like this, but white.

Oh man an online dictionary that says "some" Muslim women.
You're practically a culture expert lmao retard.

That statement is false. Islam demands women to be modest and chaste. Hijab are cultural tools used for this purpose.

Without Christianity Islam cannot exist.

Without Christianity to oppose it, Islam wouldn't have half of its modern precepts.

Without Christians to enslave we wouldn't have belts and Hitler wouldn't have stolen the idea of marking the Jews, although this universe didn't experience ww2 so the later might have been omitted but belts are a thing in this show.

How on earth do you have belts without the Muslim slave trade, or the Christians that were branded by it as inferior humans by the Muslims slave traders, what's next castrating Africans wasn't a thing, is this even appropriate Muslim representation without castrated black slaves for the glory of their Muslim overlords?

Why is her hijab PINK

>Tops are simply practical
So is a nice head dress, just wrap it around your head and you don't have to fret so much about styling your hair, it matches a lot of outfits, etc.
Shirts should absolutely be optional, there is no justification for literally fining or jailing women for taking them off. How is that not oppression? What is even your argument, it's practical so we have to force women into shirts against their will?

But Steven became a Christian, user

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A lot of women are physically attacked for not wearing hijab. The problem isn't the choice but that it's forced him them in many cases.

Why the fuck not.

The niqab is a pretty shit desert headdress though which is my point.

>>it's been long assumed that religion did not exist in the show before Patricia's appearance
>>Matt Burnett has also claimed that Christianity does not exist in the show's world (he has deleted all his SU tweets years ago however)
So we have no source for this beyond statements made by a writer who was infamous for posting misleading and joking answers to questions about the show on twitter.

We...

Are

CHRISTIANS

>A lot of women are physically attacked for not wearing hijab.
And a lot of women are physically attacked for not wearing a shirt. Even when a woman simply tries to feed her child, she has to construct an entire obscuring device just to avoid harassment - and even that is sometimes not enough. Simply for breastfeeding, something that is LITERALLY natural.

Who the fuck was talking about the niqab, we were talking about hijabs. Niqab is the ninja outfit most commonly associated with Saudi Arabian wahhabist schools of thoughts, hijabs are just a headdress.

They needed something to hold up their pants.

Reminds me of Indians wanting to rape the actress because they didn't wear a hijab in that one zombie movie.

It wasn't the plot of the movie it was the extras that wanted to rape the actress because she got them horny.
They even said it would only take an hour if each one had a turn.

Oh diversity, where would we be without you.

>>Matt Burnett has also claimed that Christianity does not exist in the show's world (he has deleted all his SU tweets years ago however)
If only one guy said this and then that guy deleted all evidence of his involvment, I don't think it's canon.

>physically attacked for breastfeeding
>things that never happen
obviously it's totally different circumstances people being uncomfortable having to look at strangers boobies especially if you have kids around and women under threat of violence for not wearing their oppressive headscarves

I mistyped. But both are shit tier.

Thats the thing, they had other utensils for that.

Belts became popular because of Christian slaves that rebelled and escaped but kept the belts out of convenience.

The story of the belt entering European culture is one of horrible Muslim slavery into a triumph making the once tool that branded them as dogs into one of civilization.

There is a bit if a difference between secondary sex characteristics like breasts and hair user.

oh yes, please educate me about the numerous nonexistent subgroups of women who always wear a hijab wherever they go

she's a muslim you absolute retards. she doesn't need to wear a t-shirt reading "i'm a muslim look at me look at me" to spell it out for you. there's absolutely no fucking reason to why her design would include such a specific detail otherwise

quit lying to yourselves. it's embarrasing

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It's almost as if bad people are bad regardless of their race, religion or creed.

Belts have been in European culture for thousands of years before Islam was even a thing you retard.

>It's a background character for inclusion points, that's it.

This. You're thinking too hard about this.

>Islam
>Religion
Nah, they're a cult, mate.

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I want to cum on her glasses

What? There are absolutely women who wear hijabs but aren't muslim you fucking dumbass.

Christianity never being a thing would so radically alter history that Steven's world should be unrecognizable to any viewer.

Cults don't normally last over a thousand years, smart ass.

>the Gems sentenced Jesus Christ to be crucified

Literally all religions are cults. I say this not to defame religions OR cults.

Cults revolve around a singular still-living leader. Islam stopped being a cult after Muhammad died.

And Muslims basically revitalized the black slave trade by buying it from African tribes that enslaved and sold other Africans to them.
A lot of horrible fucking shit can be traced to Muslims making it a thing in their beliefs, not even the Jews are this overt on owning slaves and at that point in time they were powerless while the Muslims feed almost all the slave trade even exporting it to India, oh boy don't make me start with what the Muslims did to Indians and their temples.
Not exactly for the common folk, if anything the viking and working belt where seen as a luxury, it was until those that suffered Muslim slavery integrated back into the civilized world that the belt was added to common folk.

in SU's setting, is islam correct about women?

That's a shitty modern definition. Cults are cults and many prominent religions started from cults or purposefully housed cults where they acted in a similar fashion to religious denominations do now.
Cults are just religion with accountability. Which is why they're stigmatized and attacked by the state unless they produce enough money to bargain for their existence.

>not exactly.

The belt was commonplace in northern Europe throughout history.

Its popularity coincided with tunics and pants.

You're talking shit. The belt was even introduced to arabs by the celts.

this practice is so unpopular that there is no defined subgroup of people that actually do this shit, and the few that do are simply mimicking islam, which would require ISLAM EXISTING to begin with

shove a brick up your ass you mental gymnast

If you trace its use throughout history, Hijabs are actually Arab culture, not Muslim garb. The fact that most modern Muslims think that Hijabs are Muslim garb is just a long game of telephone, while in fact there is nothing in the Qur'an that says it's mandatory.

>tl;dr: y'all bitten the long-term bait

Hijabs exist for one thing only: subjugating women. Hence why men don't wear them.

men don't got fashion

Regressive wh*Teoid religions like Christianity that were used to impose slavery and apartheid on PoC don't exist; progresive multicultural religions like Judaism and Islam do.

You seem to be mixing your centuries man.

Belts for the common folk as leather based tools were actually a lost technology before resurging in the west and becoming commonplace.

Ok boomer

>Literally all religions are cults.
they may have started as cults, but are too decentrelized now to be a cult. Remember, cults want you to cut yourself off completely from the world and rely on a central figure. most modern religons have members that still interact and rely on non-members of their religion.

Could just be a fashion choice maybe

>SJWs
>hates christianity because is homophobic
>supports islam
I really, really dont understand

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>nothing that says it's mandatory
t. theologlette
Covering a female's hair has been religious mandate since late Mesopotamia and was championed by the same "tribes" that eventually formed Islam through a long game of telephone.

the simplest explanation is it's a babushka.

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>most
a) untrue most religions reccomend not interacting with people outside the faith in their actual dogma
b) plenty of religions are centralised. In fact, to define a religion separate from a spiritual belief requires a dogma and arbitrator i.e central figure(s). e.g pope/Queen/ect. ect. ect. ect.
You're a fucking idiot.

SU world has not sense. There is a government? And where they are during alien invasion?

Both literally have an endgame where.

A) Jews live forever with a thousand slaves each.

B) The world is nothing but Islam with subhuman animals as their slaves given that non followers of Allah are Animals that should be commanded such as jews and Christians.

What part is progressive, slavery as we know it was popularized and founded by Muslims before Jewish owners of boat firms imported African slaves to the colonies.

When exactly are they supposed to he lost technology?

The history of the fucking saxons details belts were used.

Belts were literally never not used in northern Europe because it's such a handy tool.

>A$AP
WE WAS SLIPPIN ON SEMEN

>But Steven became a Religion, user

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>all Christians are Catholic and please don't expect me to back up point a)

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It's clearly not though.
Or as the zoomer would say: "it's not babushka coded, user"

Libtards don't have a set ideology. They just choose what suits them best on each occasion.

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>catholics
You're extremely backwards. Catholics are the posterchild of YOUR position with their deep need to integrate across all boundaries and evangelise.
>non-catholic christianity
>judaism
>islam
>hindusim
All of these have direct and clear instructions in their religious dogma around how to deal with outsiders and all of them are even more particular about who and how to marry/partner.
I expect you to kill yourself because you know nothing about religion despite shit posting as if you do.

See you are mixing it.

Saxon history with belts starts at the 600, it is intermittent in Europe thorough the centuries until 1400-1600 were it became common place and basically continued from that point onwards.

The discovery of an item doesn't exactly means it was used across the ages from that point, just look at cranes through history for a better example.

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I miss this nigga like you wouldn’t believe

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Catholics as a frame of Christianity firmly believe everyone belongs to God, if anything it's the one that is completely against Jewish view on purity.