>make new song for strong female character
>it's literally "let it go" from frozen
Make new song for strong female character
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I love how she literally get's BTFO after this.
>this bitch can't tear up on cue
>just put some chili powder in her eyes, no one will notice
I still don't know why the fuck they didn't just adapt the broadway show instead of doing what ever this shit is.
I hate how they unsexified Jasmine (and also cast an Indian instead of an Arab) to avoid pissing off Muslims.
>avoid pissing off Muslims
>cast an Indian
Aladdin takes place 1500 years before islam was invented
It reminds me of this song
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This was the cringes year thing I’ve seen in a Disney movie.
Sorry I meant this
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Muslims would be pissed if an Arab girl was portrayed in lewd clothing. Yeah there are Muslim Indians but generally more Indians are Hindu and more Pakistanis are Muslims (even though the two are pretty much racially the same).
Sauce?
Also, the sultan says "Allah forbid you should have any daughters" at one point.
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Praise Allah!
What is your point? The movie is clearly based heavily on Arabian culture with Arab-looking characters and many Arabs nowadays are Muslims who would be angry about a sexily dressed Arab woman. Also the sultan does refer to Allah although granted that doesn't necessarily mean he's Islamic. And don't even bother bringing in your big brain crap about how Aladdin was originally Chinese or whatever; that's irrelevant to the point I'm making.
I mean, aside from Let It Go most Disney princess songs are "I want stuff but patriarchy won't let me". Just be glad they found a second song.
Clearly he's saying praise Hela.
Allah means 'the god' it was used in pre-islamic arabia to denote an all-powerful deity in a polytheistic pantheon, it could also used to refer to the God of the bible
Aladdin and Hercules meet in one episode, so it was during the hellenistic era
Also one episode of Hercules deals Remus and Romulus building Rome
Muslim arab themselves say that arabia before islam was filled with sexual deviance so why would they complain ?
my girlfriend and i are both feminists and we thought this was cringe
Agrabah is in vague mulsim-like country. Which at one point was India (capital at that point: Agra).
There are currently more than 170 million Mulsims in India.
Not if you believe the architectural style of the buildings in the movie, or titles like "sultan".
"Allah" is the Arab word for God. Arab Christians also use that word.
some say 1500 years after Islam destroyed the world
>my girlfriend and i are both feminists
the architectural style looks achaemenid
why do people praise this film? its dog shit compared to original, actually its just dogshit
They should have casted Mia Khalifa.
They should've cast a girl like this instead of some Bollywoood type.
>implying of all the weird shit that happens in their world they still have the exact same timeline as ours
"Allah" is a dumb argument, "sultan" isn't, "vizier" isn't. Those are titles that were only worn by muslims.
Hivemind. I blame Allah.
How is allah a dumb argument ? It was used way before islam was even born, either cope of shut up
>sultan" isn't, "vizier" isn't
An 8-second google search will tell you it's not the case
How?
No u.
>The term is distinct from king (ملك malik), despite both referring to a sovereign ruler. The use of "sultan" is restricted to Muslim countries, where the title carries religious significance,[2][3] contrasting the more secular king, which is used in both Muslim and non-Muslim countries.
I was agreeing with you on the Allah part, retard.
>How is allah a dumb argument ? It was used way before islam was even born, either cope of shut up
Do you really think Disney intended for the sultan to be a pagan when he invoked Allah's name, though? Whatever, it doesn't really matter. If what he practiced was Islam it was a much more tolerant version of it that what dominates today, as he had no problem with his daughter's attire, etc.
>From French sultan, from Turkish sultan, from Arabic سُلْطَان (sulṭān), from Aramaic שולטנא (šulṭānā, “strength, authority”) (compare Hebrew שִׁלְטוֹן (shiltón) and Hebrew סוּלְטָן (sultán)).
It was used in Aramaean kingdoms, which ceased to be a thing after the Roman Empire
Pagans used the name Allah and Sultan was a title for the Aramaean chieftains of Syria
Aladdin took place in the 1st millenium BC
The Disney writers responsible for Aladdin were probably not history majors and were just trying to construct a vaguely Arab-like fantasy setting. They knew Arab leaders called themselves sultans, so they called the leader of Agrabah the sultan, etc.
>why do people praise this film?
Whom'st praises this "film"?
There isn't any muslim element in Aladdin. There's no mecca, no praying 5 times a day, no qu'ran.
Aladdin takes place in pre-islamic Arabia.
>Pagans used the name Allah and Sultan was a title for the Aramaean chieftains of Syria
Okay, but were the Disney writers aware of this or were they just making an Arabian style setting based on what little they knew of Arabs?
>Aladdin took place in the 1st millenium BC
In the original legend? Because Disney versions rarely follow those closely. Aladdin does not take place in our earth, it's a fantasy setting vaguely based on Arabia.
Aladdin meets Hercules in one episode, and Rome wasn't even built yet. It takes place in the 1st millenium BC.
Aramaean kingdoms didn't speak arabic and thus didn't use the word Allah to refer to their god.
See also: Vizier. The word has obviously semitic roots but was only worn by royal advizers under muslim rule.
Add to that the style of architecture and clothing, it's clearly muslim era vague brown country (though most similar to Mughal era India).
Abdhul please cope. They weren't muslim, that is a fact.
So much stuff happens in the Aladdin and Hercules animated series that obviously don't correspond to actual events on earth, so it's an alternate dimension with Arabia-based and Greece-based settings. Trying to make it correspond precisely to the real world earth timeline is silly.
You're blantantly trying to force your headcanon into the narrative without any proof.
>Aladdin took place in the 1st millenium BC
The only indication you have of that is 2 assumptions of yours:
-that the cartoon TV shows are canon to the original movie in any more way than the Quran is canon to Jews.
-that Hercules took place in the 1st millenium BC, which has less evidence than Aladdin taking place in a medieval muslim country.
Sultan is an Aramaic word, it was later adopted by arabs. And yes Allah was used by both pagans and monotheists.
Also Vizier is a Persian word. So is the architecture.
I will not reply to you again muhammed.
On the contrary, trying to say this takes place in the real world is absurd. In the animated series for example we see many, many countries which don't correspond to any real world historical countries. Practically every episode they're in a new ahistorical land.
>The Disney writers responsible for Aladdin were probably not history majors
Neither are you user. Why do you need this to not be in a muslim country when the source material is specifically a collection of (allegedly) muslim stories?
You don't see anybody (except Frolo) pray to Christ in Disney movies even when they clearly take place in medieval Europe, you don't see the Vatican either or the bible either, how do you cope with that?
You don't seem to understand how arguing works. You can't just say shit and make reality go away because you don't like muslims and you don't want them in your beloved fucking 1001 Nights adaptation.
No m8, that's clearly you.
It's funny, in this thread I've now once been called a Muslim and once been implied to be anti-Muslim. It's clear that ideologues on both sides are just using this thread to push their agenda. My position is that the creators of the movie and show were just trying to make a fictitious Arabian fantasy setting and probably were not interested in delving into religion too much one way or the other. The sultan called god Allah because the filmmakers knew that's what Arabs (regardless of religion) call God.
Very noice, habibi.
Arabian Nights is not a Muslim collection of stories. It's much older than that.
My point was that it more resembles Mughal era India, which makes the whole "they casted an Indian, those retards, it's clearly arabs" shit retarded. There's a goddamn Benghal tiger right the fuck there. So to make our points concide it's "vaguely brown vaguely middle east sorta country arabs indians turks who the fuck cares".
Or not. Aladdin was allegedly forged by a Frenchman who added it to his recollection of middle eastern that was given to him by some Iranian dude long after Islam began being a thing. And the story of Aladdin, at least the version that got to us, is about a muslim chinaman.
>Jasmine acts like a power hungry madwoman
>she wants the "best" for the people and the best is she ruling over them
>Jafar takes her power
>the movie literally, literally, LITERALLY stops to give room for her ramblings
>song is completely out of place
>nobody actually hears it because it is probably only in her head
>she becomes a damsel in distress right afterwards proving she worth nothing without her privileges backed up by a strong man
What the hell did they think? This only proves the misogynists right.
Well the movie is 3D after all. 3DPD can never reach peak 2D.
This has been debunked 500 years ago
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>expecting indians to act
That's not what the link you posted says
>Recent reassessments of Diyab's contribution to Les mille et une nuits, Galland's hugely influential version of the Arabic One Thousand and One Nights, have argued that his artistry is central to the literary history of such famous tales as Aladdin and Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, despite Diyab never being named in Galland's publications.
>Recent reassessments
>have argued
>based on the man's autobiography where he says Galland is totally being a salty bitch you guys
And if you agree with that position, it also argues that Diyab himself is the author of Aladdin, and he's from way after the birth of Islam.
have sex
The setting is definitely a bit of a cultural mix, but the characters look Arab to me. And dressing Jasmine in Bollywood gowns was definitely a mistake.
Benghal tigers roam as far as russia, man.
And yes, siberian tigers are classified as the same species now.
Indian Muslims simply just do not exist.
>There are currently more than 170 million Mulsims in India
My guy do are you completely unaware or what? India is basically a Hindu totalitarian state right now, Muslim Indians are getting their citizenship revoked, and they're about one protest gone wrong from a full on ethnic cleansing via military strikes. If they wanted to appease Muslims, they would not have cast one of their biggest enemies.
Jasmine is clearly Persian and Agrabah is in based Iran PBUH
The characters look like cartoon mystery meat. Dress them like latinos and nobody would bat an eye.
Remaking the movie was a mistake.
Hindus hate muslim Indians but I'm pretty sure aside from Pakis muslims don't give half a shit about India. For some fucking reason.
You're a retard who can't grasp simple concepts if you think this is remotely true.
You're correct that there's historical evidence of their existence in the mesopotamian region before they went extinct (though that was fairly recent).
You understand insults don't make for very interesting conversation, right? Or very convincing evidence that you know what you're talking about.