I hate Spider-Boy. He is not like any comic I ever read of the Spider-Man

>I have to wait 10 years for the character I like to become the character I like

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>>Crossbones
That reminds me, I'm still disappointed that the third Captain America movie wasn't about the Serpent Society after all. I was more hyped for their bait in the bait and switch that was Civil War's reveal than what it ended up being.

MCU Spider-Man is absolutely nothing like any Spider-Man run.
>instead of seeing the waynes killed in an alley and the pearls hit the pavement in slow-mo for the third time, they decided to skip that part and jump to the teenage angst story.
Oh good, so it will be teenager drama bullshit all over again just like most of the previous movies even though it was a tiny part of Spider-Man comic story, but that's ok since he's a completelly different character with a completelly different supporting cast.

Or you can read the comics but we both know you aren't going to do that

I just really hate how reliant he is on Stark tech and Tony in general, like the big thing about Spider-Man when he was created was how he wasn't some teenage sidekick, he was his own self made man with his own gadgets and outfit he made himself, by making him just get new shit from Tony it takes away that agency of being his own hero.

But he’s really not even like the Spider-Man from either 616 or Ultimate when he was their age.

Ultimate wouldn’t take half the shit that MCU Peter would take, her bully Holland’s Peter if anything

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>The whole point is you get to see him become the spider-man you know
After everyone knows who Spiderman is? They need an asspull mindwipe the world, reboot, or some other asspull to make him The Spiderman

I cannot fucking stand Tom Holland's corny ass going "OH GEE MR. STARK I REALLY BUNGLED IT UP THIS TIME!"

Nick Spencer run is a fucking abortion.

What kind of retarde logic is that? The shitty movies are still nothing like the source.

The whole Marvel Cringe Universe is a disgrace to the source material

When did I say I want to see Uncle Ben get shot again? I just want his death actually referenced and Peter to get sad about it sometimes. Instead I got a kid that like Tony Stark more than an uncle we don't even know is dead.
My main problem is that the MCU/Disney/Sony/Feige/Watts/Russo Bros. thought it'd be a good idea to replace Uncle Ben with Tony Stark. It's only made me realize I don't like Iron Man.

Also, Holland will never become the Spider-Man I know. Holland is old enough that he's stuck as a twink, and he's too popular so they'll never actually have him change or grow.

And it's frustrating to me personally, but hey. That's my personal opinion and it's fine if people disagree.

Not really, you already got him in like, four movies before MCU came along. Unless there's some really specific set of requirements to make him "your' character?

>he's a completelly different character with a completelly different supporting cast
You realize most of the MCU characters are roughly the same or completely different from their comic counterparts? This isn't unique to spider-man.

>After everyone knows who Spiderman is?
Yeah, Mysterio assfucked the status quo at the end of that movie, so who knows where they're going with it.

>When did I say I want to see Uncle Ben get shot again? I just want his death actually referenced and Peter to get sad about it sometimes.
>Instead I got a kid that like Tony Stark more than an uncle we don't even know is dead.
It's vaguely referenced and he is sad about it sometimes. How explicit do you want it to be? He lives alone with his aunt may, you know he's dead. So again, if you don't want to see Uncle Ben say his magic line and get shot, what exactly did you mean?

>Also, Holland will never become the Spider-Man I know. Holland is old enough that he's stuck as a twink, and he's too popular so they'll never actually have him change or grow.
So you don't like the actor's physical appearance, or the character's arc so far?

I don't really like it, it's not like the comics at all, it's like a totally different character, in which case why should I be interested

I mean, Iron Man and Cap are pretty accurate to their comic counterparts, and most of the other characters are nobodies that no one gave a shit about til the movies so whatever.

Spider-Man is not only completely different from his comic counterpart, but he’s retroactively been made a total bitch who only exists to prop up Iron Man and be his sidekick/heir. So it feels more disrespectful.

>My main problem is that the MCU/Disney/Sony/Feige/Watts/Russo Bros. thought it'd be a good idea to replace Uncle Ben with Tony Stark. It's only made me realize I don't like Iron Man.

The point is they skipped the uncle ben thing and went with spider-man idolizing his hero figure instead of a parent figure. The main beats are still there - He loses this figure and has to figure out who he wants to be without them.

The iron man stuff is to stream-line him into the avengers-verse and make sure everyone knows he's the hot new avengersverse spider-man and heavily tied to this universe, not just another separate reboot. This is also the fastest way for them to explain where all Spiderman's crazy ass rogues are coming from, because starktech is this universe's origin for most of the weird bionic shit.

>I just really hate how reliant he is on Stark tech and Tony in general, like the big thing about Spider-Man when he was created was how he wasn't some teenage sidekick, he was his own self made man with his own gadgets and outfit he made himself, by making him just get new shit from Tony it takes away that agency of being his own hero.
But that's what he does in homecoming. When he gets trapped by the rubble, he starts out by calling iron man for help. And then he decides he's going to be his own man, and chants his own name to pull himself free, because he's his own hero and he's taking his own agency back in that moment rather than staying the sidekick.

>Specific requirements to make him “your” character

Yeah a few
Stop making him Iron Boy Jr
Stop making him such a passive little baby and give him some edge
Give him more agency and independence
Be more like his comic counterparts

Do that and I’ll be satisfied.

>Iron Man and Cap are pretty accurate to their comic counterparts
I mean, Iron Man and Cap were the first, so they had to be, since MCU was still sticking close to the comics then. Look at Thor - he's (arguably) a totally different person in Thor 1 and Ragnarok, but there's still an effort there to be true to the core of the character if not specific storylines or moments.

I mean, going back to iron man, yeah, he's pretty accurate in some ways, but we've been getting to know him for twelve years. Spider-man has been around for about five years, and on top of that, the MCU is still stuck avoiding everything sony did in two different trilogies.

>Spider-Man is not only completely different from his comic counterpart,
Totally different in what way? Besides the iron man stuff, which happens later in his life but got pushed to his high school life for this universe, what's the thing that most feels off?

>But he’s retroactively been made a total bitch who only exists to prop up Iron Man and be his sidekick/heir. So it feels more disrespectful.
As I've mentioned above The iron man sidekick thing was his intro into the world to smooth out a bunch of worldbuilding issues and put a new "twist" on the character. I can see how that might feel disrespectful, but I don't think it's meant to be a main trait in the long run.

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Damn there's a lot wrong with this post:
>spider-man idolizing his hero figure instead of a parent figure
It feels like replacing a member of the family with some guy buying him a lot of toys. It's disingenuous. Nobody on earth would be able to replace my late Grandfather, and no billionaire could buy himself more relevance. It makes Holland's Spidey look like a piece of shit for forgetting about his Uncle. They reference "With great power comes great responsibility" in Civil War, but it's Tony's words "If you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it" that gets Peter out of the rubble in Homecoming.

>The iron man stuff is to stream-line him into the avengers-verse
It just feels lazy and a missed opportunity to do the Goblin story justice. They had the opportunity to start setting up Green Goblin in Homecoming since the MCU is a lot more stable than the previous Spider-Man movies. Now it's too late to establish Oscorp, if Harry popped up it would have the same feeling it did in ASM2.

>he's his own hero and he's taking his own agency back in that moment rather than staying the sidekick.
Then Holland Spidey uses the Iron Spider suit in the next Avengers movies, and uses Stark tech to make more gadgets in FFH. He's still the sidekick.

>if you don't want to see Uncle Ben say his magic line and get shot, what exactly did you mean?
He got sad about it once, and they didn't even say if Uncle Ben was dead or not. I want to see Peter pick up a picture of Uncle Ben and make an important decision. I want Aunt May to voice how much she misses Ben. I don't see Ben as a man lying dead on the ground, I see a friendly old man that left a mark on his family.

>So you don't like the actor's physical appearance, or the character's arc so far?
Both, but mainly his character arc. He's just kissing up to Tony for all his appearance in the MCU. In concern of his physical appearance, it feels like he's gonna still be in high school for the next 10 years. He's just wimpy Peter Parker all the time, even when he's got the mask on and supposed to talk back.

>Implying Holland will stop having that stupid baby face!

Don't forget Strucker and 90% of Spider-Man secondary characters

agreed.

>Forgot pic
This is who Uncle Ben is to me. A loving man who treated Peter like a son even though Peter was only related to Aunt May.

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But Peter is only related to Ben...

Oops, my bad. Stupid Bendis's USM told me May was Mary Parker's sister. Feel retarded, since the only way Peter and Ben would have the same last name "Parker" is if he Ben was Richard Parker's brother.
Otherwise I feel my point still stands. Ben could've treated Peter as a nephew, but he acted as his father instead.

I like him. Mcu should end with him giving the final blow to the beyonder (cgi stan lee).

just saw FFH for the first time and it was good but I wish MJ would wash her hair

Fuck off. Raimi wasn't like the comics either.

At least his movies were good

Good, his comic books suck. The only good SM storylines are ones original for the adaptations (not all of them, of course).

I can't stand LOL Spidey-Boy. He's a cancer on the MCU.

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>The whole point is you get to see him become the spider-man you know
It's been four fucking movies, I'm done with waiting and I'm done with Holland, especially after Spider-Verse.

I liked Spider-Boy. It was one of the better Amalgam comics.

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>mentions Kree Supreme Intelligence
>forgets fucking Mar-Vell, the fucking CAPTAIN MARVEL
>Thor Odinson
>Thanos
>Literally everyone in GotG
>Jarvis
>Leader
>Baron Zemo
>Killmonger
>Vision
>Quicksilver
>Volstagg (well and the Warriors Three as of Ragnarok)
>Valkyrie
>Mandarin, until retcon
The list goes on

>everyone being horny for Aunt May
To be fair, I think she gets around as much as Pete.
Young Aunt May is a heresy, though.

>Saying MCU ruined Spidey when it's an open secret from the leaked e-mails and statements made when Disney was going to drop the license that's it's chiefly a Sony project Feige is nursing so Marvel doesn't have to re-explain to Disney what they were smoking when they hand over the movie rights to their mascot.

Reminder that only Night Monkey could have saved Mysterio from Spiderman

>Night Monkey

I hate that this is what constitutes humor these days.

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you guys clearly didnt read enough spider-man then

you need a lesson in spider-man then kiddo

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To be fair they gave Tobey McGuire 3 movies and he never became Spider-man either, he is a good Peter Parker but is almost unrecognizable as Spider-man.

>He doesn’t know who Night Monkey is
Retard

this

Tobey's Spider Man actually designing and crafting his own suit is one of my favorite parts of his character. It doesn't have a shit ton of gadgets in it, it's literally just a simple costume he put together in his own free time. It makes it really feel like it was his own decision to do it.

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I still wish he had a protosuit outside of the wrestling stunt, how the fuck did he make a top quality suit that takes his web crawling into account on his own with next to zero income?

>ignores the homemade suit holland had
nah its just you an nostalgia.

This

You mean the suit that's only in that movie for like 5 minutes because Papa Stark gave him his ultra special suit?

Its the suit he uses to defeat the Vulture, the whole point of Homecoming is that Spider-man doesn't need Starks stuff to be a hero, its cinema sins tiear of movie "analysis" to ignore that.

The thing with that is that he inmediatedly comes back to use the gadget-filled suit in the next movie. Not enev FFH, in Endgame he LITERALLY let his suit do it all for him while he just holded the guantlet.
The problem isn't so much his suit as it is the gadgets that come with it