Come one and all to talk about the greatest villain team in comics. We haven't had a Friday Rogues thread in a couple weeks but with Flash #750 out, I figured it was about time to have another Rogues thread!
Come one and all to talk about the greatest villain team in comics...
Nathan Smith
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Anthony Lopez
It looks like the godawful YotV outfits are gonna stay a while
Aiden Wright
Oh neat, I didn't think we'd be having this thread today!
Michael Gonzalez
So what stories did people like or dislike in #750? Did you like the Doc Shaner pin-up?
Brandon Brown
I'd like to see a crossover, it's a shame fun stupid shit like that can't happen anymore.
Levi Myers
I liked all the sorties desu. The only issue I have with the Shaner pinup is that Wally’s ribcage is a little too low, otherwise it’s awesome as usual for Shaner.
Aaron Foster
ICYMI
Luis Sanders
Team dynamic wise, I say...
Doc ock is Captain Cold
Mysterio is Mirror Master
Electro is Weather Wizard
Heatwave is Sandman
I guess Kraven and Vulture is Trickster
How I do anons?
Zachary Scott
At least we have this.
Nicholas Jenkins
how would this guy fair in the Rogues?
Caleb Campbell
Considering Wally compared him to Rainbow Raider, pretty darned well I think.
Adam Clark
Wally’s ribcage is a little low, but Zoom’s eyes in the background is an amazing touch.
Josiah Gutierrez
I liked all of them. Least favorite was probably the Manapul one, but even that one was still decent. The only thing that bothered me about the Johns story was that Rainbow Raider wasn't included with the others here
Nicholas Ramirez
Yeah, I thought the Manapul story was just kind of there, but it was still decent as you say.
Roy kinda-sorta should be there, but the same could be said of Alvin Desmond.
Levi Gutierrez
Johns was clearly the best, Johns and Kollins Rogues book fucking when
Sebastian Wright
We should beg for at least another mini. I'm sure they'd have that in them.
Carter Johnson
God, Sandman would have a blast with the Rogues it's not even funny
David Fisher
I can imagine Johns reading the latest Rogues arc in Flash and thinking, "Goddamn it, do I have to fix them fucking again?!"
Jacob Russell
I wonder how much that frustrates him. I'm sure it must, he's never been shy about expressing it before.
Caleb Moore
Something that I've noticed is that after Johns leaves a book, the next writer pretty much fucks it up entirely and squanders everything that Johns basically gave to them. You can find this in JSA, Flash, Green Lantern etc. The only exceptions I can think of are Hawkman and Aquaman. I'm sure it disappoints him greatly when it happens.
Asher Thomas
Zachary Turner
It must. To some extent anyone who works at the Big Two probably expects it and is used to it, but it must be annoying when you've put a lot of work into a book.
Adrian Phillips
Nathaniel Howard
He'd be a staple of Silver Age Rogues, but would probably fall out of favor about the time Barry learns how to phase through shit with his molecule bullshit.
Landon Kelly
And then he'd develop even greater molecular bonds to hold the Flash, kind of like how Captain Cold can go below absolute zero and Heat Wave has fire hot enough to burn Tar Pit.
Hunter Ortiz
Aiden Gray
Andrew Foster
Bullying the Turtle
Gavin Bell
Jason Howard
In an interview from just before #750, Kolins said that he and Johns would definitely be interested on doing a Cold monthly and that they could keep doing something like that forever. If DC won't give us a second Flash on-going, they should consider a Cold/Rogues on-going instead. Literally the best creative team for it wants to do it, what's stopping them?
Dominic Peterson
Geez, I hadn't heard that and it sounds amazing. Maybe we can beg DC.
Michael Baker
Here's the link for if you are interested. I made a small mistake, it was actually Johns himself who said he'd love to do a book like that.
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Caleb Clark
Sounds great. If they ever did the book I'd hope they wouldn't emphasize the dead sister angle too heavily, because that's the one thing I don't care for in Johns' Cold.
Dominic Collins
Lisa's alive again, so that would require Johns killing her off specifically to emphasis her being dead. Plus given that she's been around since 2011 I think he'd catch a bunch of flak for killing, especially since she's now seen as a core Rogue.
Isaiah Carter
I was thinking they might set the book at least vaguely in the same timeline as the 'Beer Run' story, but they might set it in current continuity. I'd be curious how much they'd want to write current continuity if they can't change things to suit their tastes.
Jaxson Torres
The main problem with current continuity is that both Mirror Master and Weather Wizard are boring as fuck. Sam could be killed off to bring back Evan, but I doubt Mark's change into Marco can be ignored so easily
Hudson Gonzalez
I think current continuity is close enough that they can work with it, or at least not have to make too many major changes to bring it to a status quo that they like. It's not like either of them haven't been in the industry long enough to know that you can't always get what you want and sometimes you're left polishing a turd. Also I think that of Johns got a Rogues book he'd also put a fair bit of focus on Flash's other villains that aren't Rogues but would fit in with them.
Liam Bell
They could be made interesting if someone really wanted to, I'm sure. I don't think either is an inherently bad character, though I don't like either of them in their current incarnations.
Ethan King
Hopefully this happens so we can get more Rogues Profiles issues, still need ones for Axel and Weather Wizard.
Matthew Ross
The main thing that gets me mad about Flash Rebirth was there was no follow through to what Johns was planning on doing with Dr. Alchemy and Kadabra.
Luke Young
Also the Top and Dr Alchemy.
Tyler Ward
I'd say Marco has a better setup for development than Mark. Familial ties to organized crime he'd prefer not to exist, a shit ton of guilt, and emotional instability due to his powers are all pretty solid background elements. Toss in the book nerd of pre-Flashpoint and go full Byronic with him.
Dominic Turner
All true, but I have to admit I've always found the muh cartel family stuff to be cringeworthy and wouldn't be sorry if it was quietly forgotten. A better writer might able to do it right, though.
Ryan Long
As long as he's a angry himbo again I don't care about his family set up
Luis Cooper
You could have the cartel out to kill Marco to prevent a challenge to the current leaders and use it to reintroduce Snowflame. If for no other reason than I want to see stimulant powered pyrokinetic hopped up on Velocity 9.
Evan Murphy
This is true, because Mark's story was pretty much completed in Rogues Revenge. His son was killed and he avenged him and we finally learned that Mark killed Clyde (before that, it was only implied). Weather Wizard could use a new hook anyway
Cooper Watson
A couple threads back, there was some talk about wanting another female to join the Rogues so Lisa has someone to bantz with, which female villain would you want to join the Rogues?
Wyatt Moore
Bump
Ryan Fisher
What about Magenta?
Jaxson Flores
With Didio out, I kind of want to see Johns return to Flash so he can right the ship a bit and finally get to do the story he wants to tell or maybe make him the. Editor of a subline of Flash Books where he can set up the storylines
Jack Morris
Would be cool if we could get a Flash-centric event for once. Instead of all the Batman and villains events
Cameron Bennett
I kinda want her and Piper to be friends
Alexander Sanchez
That would be nice and also to have it not be conscripted into a line wide reboot
Landon Brown
I’m surprised they didn’t interact really at all during Wally’s run
Benjamin Torres
It's been a while since I read anything with the Flash and liked it. And before the Rogue mini in Forever Evil, probably Johns Flash. Time for a DC reread, lads. Anything I should add in?
Waid Flash
Marz Green Lantern
Johns Flash
Final Crisis: Rogues’ Revenge
Flash Rebirth
Brightest Day: Johns Flash
Forever Evil
Forever Evil: Rogues Rebellion
I feel like I'm missing something.
Sebastian Wood
Also since this thread is kinda dying, I'm gonna storytime a one-shot.
Nolan Jones
Isaiah Fisher
They would have fun shittalking Wally desu.
Carson Barnes
Also I hope you don't mind, OP. But I figure this is a decent way to bump thread/keep interest.
Elijah Baker
Jaxson Barnes
Kayden Murphy
Aiden Gutierrez
Julian Reyes
Carson Reyes
Kinda weird reading about Dr Light and not having him be an actual nutjob.
Robert Turner
Jayden Smith
Jack Ross
Gavin Edwards
Len was always a class act. Poor lad
Alexander Anderson
Dylan Johnson
Juan Thompson
>I hated the man, not the costume. You'd have to be crazy to do that.
kek
Charles Long
Nolan Miller
Fuck, why are the Rogues so fucking cool?
Isaiah Kelly
Charles Cruz
Josiah James