Niggaz, PEX, PP-R or copper

Niggaz, PEX, PP-R or copper.
Which one should I use in my motherfucking house? I have CPVC and it is literally held together with PVC tape. Everyone had changed CPVC with PP-R or copper after earthquake we had. PEX here is not a thing yet, but you can buy.
I don't care about price, but PP-R is cheapest materials, but soldering thing is kinda overpriced for glorified iron ($150). PEX is mid-price, but tools are really expensive as fuck ($250 for tools). Copper is expensive, but I have all the tools.
As for skills, I don't have any skills, and I don't thing that soldering PP-R or copper is harder than using press tool for PEX.
Oh, yeah, we have real bad UV here, and I think I will run some pipes on the side of the house outside.

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Also, will angle grinder work for copper pipe, or I should buy cutter jew?

Take copper

copper hands down.
plastic pipes will degrade in the sun and heat and are more prone to bursting.
copper piping lasts for decades or more if properly cared for.

Which pipe is less susceptible to mineral build-up?

>is harder
isn't harder I meant, fuck.

A proper copper tool is ideal.. I say pex

They all are pretty similar. If being used for water. Use a cup of bleach once a month in your water source

copper kills bacteria & microorganisms pvc makes your nuts shrivel

Idk i have no idea about building things I'm just intelligent enough to know that copper metal is better than plastic shit

Lexi's outlawed in many states. It's too brittle.use cpvc

Cutter is $5. Literally nothing compared to everything else.
>pex
I really like that I'd need a few fittings, but I don't like that it is not UV-resistant.
> Use a cup of bleach once a month in your water source
Wut? Don't you ruin limescale and shit with acid?
So copper it is. Because I think that metal is better than some faggy solidified dinosaur goop.
Unless pex-niggers and pp-r gays sell me on their shit.
Nigga, I already have CPVC, and it is more brittle than glass. It is literally wrapped in electric tape at this moment, and pressure is reduced to real minimum.

Copper is a bigger up front investment and is harder to work with. You can't run PEX outside the UV will destroy it. Copper lasts forever but realistically how long are you going to be in the house.
are you redoing the whole house? Are you taking off all the drywall so you have access to everything? Are you changing out all the fixtures? Is there any other metal plumbing that you need to worry about electrolytic decay if you use copper?

Also you can't buy CPVC here, it is literally outlawed. Only CPVC thing they sell here is threaded adapter.

I dont know what's up with your shit pipe but my old home was PVC and it was fine. With out skill I'd do pex. My new home has it. Also why run the lines outside? Run in your attic if you cant run under your home.

Ask on Im sure they have a general consensus on which is best and have tons of experience to back it up.
$20 says they say copper.

>. Copper lasts forever but realistically how long are you going to be in the house.
Idk, hopefully long enough. If you consider the price, PEX + tools is about as expensive as all copper pipes, solder, fitting and $5 cutter I don't have.
>are you redoing the whole house
Yes. But house is small-ish.
> Are you taking off all the drywall so you have access to everything? Are you changing out all the fixtures?
I'm going to remodel bathroom. Kitchen... I will run pipes from outside, along with gas pipe, so it all sneaky.
All faucets are gonna be replaced.
>Is there any other metal plumbing that you need to worry about electrolytic decay if you use copper?
I have copper going from the meter to house.
>Also why run the lines outside? Run in your attic if you cant run under your home.
Because it is really easy and logical layout. Attic is hot, and I hate piss hot water.

ya, there's the expense of the tools, but there's also the expense of your time.

Go get a couple of copper fittings and a blowtorch and sweat the fittings and leak check them. See how long it takes you to get it right. Think about all the angles and bends those pipes are going to have to make and how many of those joints you're going to have to sweat. Then think about the 10 seconds it will take to do it with a crimper, and that for some angles you won't even need a joint because you can arc the flexible PEX around whatever it is.

Your time is money, too.

>ya, there's the expense of the tools, but there's also the expense of your time.
Time is free thanks to coronachan.
>Go get a couple of copper fittings and a blowtorch and sweat the fittings and leak check them.
Idk, I recon 30 second at most.

With pex minor slave labor is possible, but with copper - I will not let my brothers kids play with torch in my house.

>Idk, I recon 30 second at most.
I mean I gotta try.
Maybe a minute in beginning, dunno

Like I said. Go buy 5 feet of copper pipe and half a dozen fittings. Practice cutting, buffing, fluxing, and sweating the joints. If you think you can do it in 30 seconds you're probably wrong, you need to preheat the copper for 10-20 seconds before you flux so its hot enough the solder will flow in well.

Idk. I think 5 seconds on sanding and cleaning. 5 seconds on fluxing.
20 seconds on soldering. Let me dig though my junk, I might have a copper pipe or fitting.

Loling at the boomers itt shouting for copper.
PEX is the absolute shit, PEX all day every day.

You know, I think it is easier to copper, since you see your solder being sucked in, and nice ridge on the outside, but in case of pex - idk. It is kinda unclear.
Same for PP-R, who knows if I overheat the fitting and it shuts pipe close.

Where do you live that has exposed pipes? Ive never seen exposed pipes, ever.

>copper lasts forever

I thought copper developed pinhole leaks over time. From what I understand, PEX is now the industry standard, but the tools are fucking overpriced.

I don't know homes with water lines outside. My water is fine with pex being in my attic, under 14 inches of insulation. Im in southeast Texas close to the la border, about 2 hours east of Houston so it's miserable in summer.

Cooper does not last forever

In my area it is common, since it never gets below freezing.
Lead does last forever. But it is banned

Copper is expensive, but lasts 50+ years. I would not go with a rigid plastic of any type. PEX lasts 50ish years, is cheap/easily installed, and is great in earthquake zones.

Go with PEX A, and buy a motorized tool if you have a lot to do.

Switch to copper for any lengthy exterior runs, you'll want it rigid. Buy the cutter, it's cheap and neat, and it saves a ton of work. Make sure you put valves inside and can bleed all the exterior water out of the lines if it can get to freezing there.

>more prone to bursting.
Not true for PEX. Copper will burst far sooner, there's tons of data to support this.
>copper piping lasts for decades or more
There's no data to support this, as PEX is around 50 years old, with a life expectancy of 50. That number will increase as newer and better installs age.

>I will run pipes from outside
noooooo...