Should your freedom of speech in online games be protected? Or should devs have a right to ban anybody who says things they don't agree with?
Should your freedom of speech in online games be protected...
Do I have a right to kick your ass out of my own house if you're running your mouth and otherwise being a faggot? Yes, of course.
Based
How would you feel if you were banned for what you just said, brainlet?
>Comparing private property to a service
Low IQ ape
business entities shouldn't be allowed to bypass constitutional rights in their services, if you operate in a country you shouldn't pick and choose what individual rights you respect
Well the constitution doesn't say they can't, so they can. That's what you get for worshiping a piece of paper from 300 years ago.
did they say gays were not allowed to use the bakery
or did they just say they wont cater to gay weddings
how is that different from what youtube is doing
also
>youtube removing misinfo
lol
don't fucking click yes to the tos then
this
can';t believe we still based everything on a piece of paper 300 years ago that was trying to be vague and can be "interpenetrated" whatever they like when they try to make their case
>YouTube servers aren't private property
I wouldn't be happy about it but it's still their right to do so.
No, some guy refused to bake a wedding cake for some child raping pooftas and his bakery got pretty much cancelled overnight.
He's smart enough to know where he's posting. You clearly don't if you're already crying.
That's their point. The commies went up in arms about how bakeries should be forced to cater for fag weddings but when online social media platforms censor and shut down any truth, that's their right.
Slurs and insults filter out the casuals and the paper-skinned.
absolutely based and redpilled
What if you owned 96% of the homes in your area? Do you have a right to kick out a person from all those houses?
I'm a freshman in college and it is 2020. by the time I have children the world will have gotten so much worse. what are we supposed to do bros?
that sort of approach works well on the micro scale. but everything changes when we're talking about a service that acts as a communication medium for literally tens of millions of Americans.
are you seriously ok with the sort of machinations going on in Southern California as google seeks to impose their agenda on the rest of the country?
we're talking about scale here. this is big. google controls *so* much
It depends. In a game like overwatch, where the game doesn't function without official blizzard servers, then yes. If it's a game like tf2 where you get banned from one server and can just go to another, then no.
If we're talking about the OP, you need to learn the difference between a platform and a publisher. Youtube is within their rights to censor certain things, but that means they also have more obligations. The huge issue is that they are acting as a publisher by censoring very discriminately while still keeping the broader protections of a platform.
"freedom of speech" has nothing to do with games and shit.
Yes, google controls so much of their own property! The government I mean "((("people")))" must sieze it!
Then nationalize it and make it a public service. Then free speech applies. As long as it's in private hands it doesn't.
low-key gamergator thread.
don't even.... just don't even.
What is with the alt-shite conspiritards needing to spread all these bullshit rumours every time a new news story comes about? Is it because they know their retarded audience will donate?
>censoring very discriminately
Dude, do you know how many videos are on YouTube? They can't just delete everything at once.
>what are we supposed to do bros?
Nothing! Everyone here agrees that there is nothing left to live for now that the powers that be have won forever. All we can do is accept our lord and savior Google in our lives forever, or kill ourselves.
"Get woke go broke" they said. Getting woke is now literally the only way your business can stay afloat!!!
Your rights aren't being violated you retard. You can say whatever you want but no one else is obligated to let you into their property. If a game developer has you arrested for saying something in game then maybe you'll have a point. Otherwise you're a fucking moron.
>we're talking about scale here. this is big. google controls *so* much
Exactly why none of us are bothering stopping them. They are our Gods and if you can't accept that then suicide is always an option.
Up to the devs.
I will only play games where the devs do value free speech (or just fuck off after making it and let us play).
>cancelled
What does that mean? People stopped using it? How is that the same as Trump imposing Communism on Facebook and Google?
Twitterfags are fucking pathetic everyone thats uses twitter is a fucking schizo.
>youtube CEO literally outright says they're shutting down anybody who says things against china/WHO
>"hurr conspiracy theorist tards"
it's not just what's being deleted, but about who gets demonetized / promoted aswell.
lately I get mainstream news clips (cnn / fox) on autoplay every time I watch a political commentary video
These people are wrong about the bakery.
The bakery won its case because it has the right to refuse to make a certain design of cake, not to refuse service based on sexuality.
The bakery was happy to make the cake for the gay customers, just not to support gay marriage with the decoration because it's against their core beliefs.
A baker or an artist can refuse to oblige your idea for a design, whether it be a swastika or a progressive message.
They can't refuse service all together based on your sex, race, sexuality, etc though.
This should be simple enough to grasp.
Do you know what the word dicriminately means? The issue isn't how much they're deleting, it's the fact that they are very biased in what they delete.
If they want to censor certain vviewpoints, that's shitty but they're within their rights. But they should not get to keep the protections that come with being a platform instead of a publisher.
>corporations are becoming more and more powerful
>even beginning to supersede governments
>suddenly the rhetoric of "companies can do what they want :^)" starts to appear
>social media retards that want to pretend they're smart begin parroting it
All just coincidence I'm sure.
So how do you enforce that? By having the government bypass their constitutional rights? That's what rights and a free market is for. If a big business is refusing money for their services that opens up a niche for someone else to make that money if the demand is large enough. On a small business level it works but our market is definitely not free when it comes to the giant corporations and fed scratching each others backs.
Stop consooming faggot and don't agree to their ToS if you have a problem
>known consipritard "conservatives" say 5G celltowers are spreading Coronavirus so their followers will gib them more gibs and they will get more (You)s
>"hurr libruls shutting down freeze peach"
Literally everyone except us loves google. Sadly there is literally nothing we can do to fix the world. It's time we consider suicide.
>WHO
There is literally no way around Google. They are huge and control literally all of our lives. See . They're our gods.
I don't care, I don't talk unless it's related to something in the game.
I have no desire to engage in any form of discussion with a bunch of retards.
>demonization = censorship
Okay, buddy
>popular thing gets promoted
Wow, like literally any business in the world, including Trump's!
Youtube needs to die already. Why can't you faggots think for a few minutes and migrate to a non jew controlled platform?
top cunts ngl
>>demonization = censorship
>Okay, buddy
How are you still struggling so much with the idea of publisher vs. platform? Yes, that is absolutely a form of censorship that should strip certain protections based on how they demonetize.
should have close every fucking country since the first case at september
fucking retarded goverments
Because there isn't a viable youtube competitor.
And no one said the gays couldn't patronize the bakery. The owner just refused to make a gay wedding cake. I swear, only retards on social media.
The WHO is nothing but the bitch of China, a complete joke of an organization.
You literally can't prove a word of whst ypu just posted
No, he was fine selling them a cake, he just didn't want to write the pro gay marriage shit on it.
i only use it to download music
>thinks cnn/fox/other normie boomer shit is popular on youtube
>thinks the trending video bullshit is 100% organic and not manipulated
lol
b-but das rasis
It absolutely should. Freedom of speech is a PRINCIPLE. Increasingly, it is being treated as a legality to be exploited wherever possible.
bitchute
freedom of speech? we don't even have that to begin with OP
>imagine to unironically defend corporations
While I do agree all /poltrannies/ should have their balls removed, I'm not siding with the out of touch retards from youtube.
It isn't because most people have never read the actual decision made and only ever think about the anti-discrimination laws that led to it.
Companies can do whatever the hell they want when it comes to free speech. It's up to the government to regulate whether or not they're allowed to get away with it.
>China
>cooperated with WHO
>declining covid cases, reopening cities and resuming businesses
>USA
>antagonized WHO and denied a pandemic could happen
>getting raped in the ass by a preventable epidemic
top lmao
So you're braindead and don't want to actually have a discussion. Got it.
Freedom of speach isnt about being able to shout that you hate niggers from your porch.
It encompasses everything. If a platform is giving you the option to express your opinion, it should allow free speech by LAW. It does not matter that it is virtual and not in real life - those line are blurring. Corporations have to be limited as to what they can do with and to customers, especially if they are powerful and massive like youtube. If they are not put on a leash shit like this happens.
Marmalade Mum should stick to making porn.
This.
>CHINA: Fuck the businesses, we got people to save
>USA: Fuck the people, we got businesses to save
That's why I will always appreciate the former more then the latter.
>demonization is a form of censorship.
No, it's not. The video still exists, does it not?
>should
So... it's how you feel, not a fact.
10 social credits have been added to your profile
>t. "Israel is our greatest ally."
You should be allowed to say whatever you like.
Everyone else should be allowed to mute or block you.
That's the easiest fucking solution without fucking over anyone.
because whenever a competitor comes up, all the people who flock to it first are people already banned from youtube, thus making it undesirable to the public
Online games aren't meant to be an outlet for your political opinions. Video game developers should be under no obligation to protect speech that is unrelated to their product.
Youtube, on the other hand, is a major global media system that has chosen to make itself available for public usage. Because of that they should be scrutinized for any actions that undermine the government protection of free speech, even if they are a private business.
>are you seriously ok with the sort of machinations going on in Southern California
No, but that's exactly the point. I don't like california but that doesn't give me the right to walk into their privately owned businesses and demand that they start to operate according to my personal values, nor does it mean my free speech is being trampled on when they kick me out for behaving like a cunt on their property.
Free speech means you can't be arrested for speaking out against the government, it doesn't mean private property ceases to exist. While I'm on the subject, it also doesn't mean you can do things like make death threats to people and play the "free speech" card to get out of it, free speech is not actually a free pass to say literally and absolutely anything you could possibly want to anybody you want, in any setting and context that you want. There have always been limits.
>make claim
>get asked for proof
>somehow, that makes ME braindead.
That's LITERALLY how a discussion works.
>OBONGO
>wake up sheeple
>le happy merchant
jesus christ. how long have we been here
NOOOOOO I NEEEEED MY HAIRCUT AND LAWN FERTILIZER NOW!!!!
Anyone else done with these dumb hot takes that are designed to start arguments? Stop getting sucked into this internet reaction culture
Online gaming has proved that no one deserves freedom of speech.