Apparently it's general consensus that writing about RAPE / GENOCIDE / HOMOPHOBIA etc, etc...

I don't ask why my games suck because people don't write about these things.
I ask why my games suck because there's story in my video game to begin with.

Also by this logic, Yas Forums should love Disco Elysium.

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Why are you guys like this

>Freedom of speech is white supremacy, just ask that noted speech advocate
>uh
>Richard Spencer, the guy who goes into a suing fit every time someone coughs his name

Trying too hard, kid.

Wow, it's almost like there's some sort of political party that holds absolute contempt towards white people and they own the vast majority of the entertainment industry and they're trying to smoke us out since the government can't legally side with them. It's almost like the era of rampant corporatism is more horrifying than anything the government can dish out.

Yeah this argument doesn't work. You can go to jail for making a racist fictional character. You can't go to jail for making a fictional gay character.

>Just let people have their fun
THIS.
This is why our society going to the shithole.
You allowing degenerates acts had effectively bring us to the shitty society these days.

I wanna see more games that take on darker subjects. Imagine if a game like the Last of Us was written for the theater. You might see more subjects like canabalism in The Road. Darker subjects make a story seem more legit.

Then why does their opposition support those same corporations? I know the answer is "The best game is one you can't lose" but I'm shocked at how many on both sides don't understand.

Beats me. All I know is that every single game dev came out in open support of telling "white gamer dudebros" to fuck off.

Movies had to undergo nothing short of a cultural castigation in order to get the freedom that it enjoys today.

It's why Ebert was 100% right until he was browbeat into submission by rabid twitter SJWs: Games can't even pretend to be art until society seriously attempts to persecute them for trying taboo things. Until game directors are going to jail for making risque games, they can't call themselves art.

>made by Communists
ew

i believe a writer can do anything he wants if he can justify it with the characters. If the development of such characters doesn't have a moral or some shit, this falls into mockery.
You have to (or at least to "prove" you are a good writer) make the character confront that fear.

This is such a stupid fucking point.

Yas Forums, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either artists are all hack SJW frauds or they're secretly misunderstood and browbeaten by SJWs. You can't have it both ways.

Video games are art. This is not a debate anymore, no sane person is unironically having this argument anymore.

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> it's general consensus
Wrong. You would be right if this were true. But it's not.

It's about public responsibility. I'm not a fucking idiot, I know why you people REALLY want "controversial ideologies" in your games. You want to normalize fascism and Nazism, as per fucking usual.

Don't play dumb. I'm more than willing to stand behind the argument that no subject is off-limits when it comes to art, but you're not really interested in it. You want another Richard Spencer. You want another Nick Fuentes. You want to convert more kids to your horrific ideology because you realized that you lost on an intellectual level.

We're not fucking stupid.

It absolutely is. There's a reason why countries are banning stuff like lolicon or games that have swastikas. The people in charge of your country certainly believe that.

Well, so is tetris.

The problem is when you make a character that acts like a complete queer-bashing chimp, normal human beings don't typically want to see them win. I'm down to see shitty people in media but a game where someone acts insufferable and then winds up being the good guy just feels as much like a hamfisted political statement as something like a localizer adding trans rights shit into a game does.
I'm not arguing about how legitimate both of those examples are, by the way - fuck localizers - I'm just saying I hate seeing both of these things in my vidya. It's a major part of why Hatred wasn't enjoyable.

>Yas Forums, you can't have your cake and eat it too. Either artists are all hack SJW frauds or they're secretly misunderstood and browbeaten by SJWs. You can't have it both ways.
Have you been living under a rock for the past decade?
The SJWs ARE the moral police, now. They're the moral police of our era. Notice how the only thing they complain about is things like Hatred and Titty games? They've seamlessly slid into the position that Christian fundies occupied twenty years ago. Those are the ones that will castigate you for making the "wrong" thing.

But even then, they're not going to kill you for it. Which is why
>Video games are art.
Is such a stupid fucking point. No one suffered and bled for your video games to become a reality, that's why developers constantly cuck to the moral puritans and why none of htem have any balls to stand up and tell them "No".

Meanwhile Movies and Books had authors and directors killed by state sanction and mob brutality for making movies and books. Where do you get off saying Video Games are art when no one will even suffer for them? You and all the hipsters saying "Games are art, man." are insulting actual artistic mediums where artists would gladly give up their lives for their message. That was Ebert's point and it's lost on hipsters like you who couldn't comprehend of a game that deserves to exist even if you hate it. After this you'll probably go complain about Senran Kagura or that Trump game like the weak-willed faggot you are.

You are so fucking out of touch with reality it's insane.

First of all, people "bleeding and sweating" doesn't suddenly make something art. You are attributing such a lofty and faggoty definition of art.

You are unironically someone that thinks "art = pretty things".

Games with writing and dialogue should be illegal. All that shit sucks. I don't care if you're based or cringe or whatever, games do not need writing. Go write a book you faggots.

>It's about public responsibility. I'm not a fucking idiot, I know why you people REALLY want "controversial ideologies" in your games. You want to normalize fascism and Nazism, as per fucking usual.
Ironically this is what people said about communism and movies, music, and art. Actual artistic mediums that aren't video games.

Notice puritans like yourself only bitch about it when someone else does it? When it's you being persecuted by religions and puritans, it's always "Hey man, all of our art deserves to exist. Even if you hate it!" The literal second your pseudo-religion comes to power, here you are playing the reverse card.

Fuck off, you're society's cancer.

Movies iwth music in them should be illegal. All that shit sucks. I don't care if you're based or cringe or whatever, games do not need writing. Go write a book you faggots.

I genuinely don't understand your point here. I'm not saying you CAN'T have fascist shit in your video games, like obviously it shouldn't be illegal. But I know what you're doing. You're as transparent as a window.

Imagine trying to have a modern sjw "journalist" read Blood Meridian lol.

Why are you lying so much?

>First of all, people "bleeding and sweating" doesn't suddenly make something art
That's not what I said, I said your games aren't art because no one WILL bleed to sweat for them. The second anyone in the games industry is challenged, they cave. Every single fucking time. Name one person who died because he made a video game.

You are unironically someone who thinks "art = anything I don't find offensive", and that's terrible. That ranks you up there with Hitler, Stalin, and every dictator of the 20th century. Ironically you think Games are art but probably want to censor a good chunk of them for portraying things you hate like the book burner you were born to be.

You're mentally ill

I'm a liberal and live blood meridian

What the fuck they paired him up with Stannis?

>You can go to jail for making a racist fictional character
No you cant you fucking schizo. Is this the only way to make new poltards? Sheer lunacy?

>SHUT UP YOU ARE CLOSET FASH EEEEEE
>By the way, please get rid of these harmful forms of "art" for me, please.
Yeah, you're past the banning stage when lefties in government couldn't get Doom banned. So now you're just demanding people stop making things you don't approve of. Everyone knows what you are doing. Everyone who has read a history book knows that this is how you freaks try to censor culture. You're as transparent as a window.

>out in open support of telling "white gamer dudebros" to fuck off.
Because loud deranged incels are annoying and kill broad market appeal. Capitalism doesn't care about your id pol obsession, a bunch of loonies screaming about killing women and trannies isnt good for business. Do you really not understand this?

I like the implication that people are apparently against writing an unrepentant racist homophobe in their video games, yet when a dev actually does that like in Wolfenstein we get 20 thousand threads of wounded Yas Forumstards crying about how the unrepentant racist homophobe is the villain.

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Imagine trying to make children's toys into "art" lmao

He explained himself badly but I get it. The only purpose of vidya is to make money, or make investors rich. This means pandering to the lowest common denominator, avoiding controversies, pandering, etc.
Art is not about that, think of Baudelaire, think of Picasso, think of William Blake.
The whole process of making a game is risk adverse and safe, im such a contest is difficult to cultivate art.

You're insane, and it genuinely does bother me that so many fucking retards have your mindset.

>1. the expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.
"the art of the Renaissance"

>the various branches of creative activity, such as painting, music, literature, and dance.
"the visual arts"

PLEASE hang yourself. Or at the very least don't have children.

Why do you keep falling back on a position that I never said? I'm fine with controversial topics being discussed in art, retard. All I'm saying is that you're all CLEARLY Richard Spencer fans looking for more outlets to spread your ideology. At least SJWs aren't THIS dishonest about their beliefs.

Imagine not having sex for so long that you invent an alternate reality to explain it. Get help.

It is completely fine, just that no one has the obligation to create a game with it. If you feel strongly about making a game where a gaybashing homophobe wins then you can always make your own.

This

No, you unironically can't have fascist shit in your video games, even things that make fun of it. Find the fash game that's allowed to exist without faggots like you doing pic related, meanwhile you have devs coming out of the woodwork to praise literal genocidal maniacs because their shirts had a different symbol on them.

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Oh wow, so you totally conceded the point. You literally just agreed with me that corporations ARE out to get white people.

You can throw around all the buzzwords you want, but you LITERALLY just agreed with me.

trannies are gross, and nothing will ever change that

Why dont poltards just make their own games instead of trying to decide what other people create? Are you too stupid?

Well duh, solid history games like that have to stick to facts

That was in 2018, though. The face of Yas Forums has changed a lot, and most of them keep to their houses these days instead of taking things out when they had all those e-celebs backing them up on their Nazism.

Since then I think people have just simply erased Nazis and Racists from Cultural Conscience like OP said, and now they're just gone with the wind.

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what a load or horseshit
>you can't x
of course you can
they aren't even hard to find

it scares me sometimes how little people think about the shit they say

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you mean like kingdom come where that guy got labeled a nazi because he didn't shove black people into medieval europe and his game either got critiqued unfairly or blacklisted/ignored by other sites?

Aside from the fact that most of this is straight up bullshit, the majority of people are simply much more progressive than you ane dont want right wing sociopaths portrayed in a positive light in their escapist media. Its not complicated to understand why the market caters to the much larger demographic over the violent incel zealots

>literal genocidal maniacs because their shirts had a different symbol on them.
Tell me how Marx or Hengels COMMITTED a genocide.

>The only purpose of vidya is to make money

What a retarded stance. What do you mean "purpose"? For the developers? So literally every single video game dev is in it for the money? What about indie devs or people who have genuine passion for the industry
>INB4 "they don't exist lol"

They do. Just because you hate video games doesn't mean everyone else does.

Second, what entertainment industry DOESN'T have a monetary incentive? Movies certainly fucking have it. Just saying "video games aren't art because devs are greedy" is so vacuous.

>No, you unironically can't have fascist shit in your video games, even things that make fun of it.

Yes, and I agree that's bad! My whole point is that this is a bad thing! I literally agree with you!

But again - I need to make this VERY CLEAR - I do not believe for a second that your intentions are pure or that you genuinely care about creating an open marketplace of ideas. You want more fascist recruits. That simple.

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Why cant right wingers understand they will never have any relevance in society? Things only get more progressive in the west, you're never gonna convince western society to start hating gays and women again no matter how much you bitch and moan and shoot up schools

>Apparently it's general consensus that writing about RAPE / GENOCIDE / HOMOPHOBIA etc, etc, all the abhorrent human actions in today's society isn't allowed in FICTIONAL books.
You are faggot who has never read, because that shit is rampant, go to a book store.

>You're insane, and it genuinely does bother me that so many fucking retards have your mindset.
YOU'RE insane, and a fascist. It genuinely bothers me that so many fucking retards have your mindset.
Ironically notice how none of your definitions include "Video games"? That's because they aren't art. They're an entertainment medium, they will stay that way until creators start to tell the censors (like you) to fuck off.

PLEASE hang yourself, because I don't have to worry about someone like you ever breeding.

no, most people are ignorant and hateful towards gay/trans folk and anyone who isn't their race
like what world are you living in where the average black guy is some ultra progressive

Fictional world= nothing happens for real. People should learn to distinguish fiction from reality.
How would you feel if REYLO fans suddenly threatened Kylo Ren's actor for not being together with Rey and... oh wait, that happened.

Well, SOME mentally challenged people should be excluded from being exposed to fiction. Leave the others alone with their escapism, allegory or whatsoever.

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Nigga you're just lying

why the fuck do you have to ruin my day with this picture u cunt

>Why do you keep falling back on a position that I never said? I'm fine with controversial topics being discussed in art, retard. All I'm saying is that you're all CLEARLY Richard Spencer fans
Literally every person who wants to censor art starts with the premise that only bad people support a certain kind of art. Seek help, you are clearly suffering from severe mental dissonance from being in a hugbox on twitter or tumblr for years to have any self-introspection of your own.

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>Apparently it's general consensus that writing about RAPE / GENOCIDE / HOMOPHOBIA etc, etc, all the abhorrent human actions in today's society isn't allowed in FICTIONAL books.
Your very first sentence is a crock of shit

Haha okay you're trolling. Ya got me. I'm an idiot for falling for it.

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>you can go to jail
If you can prove that can happen then I'll believe you