So there are several reports that PS5's are failing due to overheating. We also know through verified sources at Bloomberg that the PS5 BoM is significantly higher than normal due to more being spent on cooling. We might have another RROD situation on our hands.
When was the last time Sony was actually pushing hardware forward? Early 90's?
Ryder Richardson
>source is literally "dude trust me"
Leo Baker
seething snoy
Juan Campbell
i trust jez over anyone else. even if you don't believe the source he's referring to, he still backed it up based on his own info and he's been reliable for consoles.
Chase Green
Why would anyone be surprised at this? Literally every console they've released had problems. PS1, PS2 both had hardware failures. PS3 red light of death, PS4 also had other problems and sounds like a jet engine
>When was the last time Sony was actually pushing hardware forward? Literally never. Playstation has always been an underpowered shitbox. The PS2 could barely run multiplats above 15 fps. PS3 wasn't much better, never mind the PS4.
The PS2 really performed like shit. I would always get bummed out when a game didnt have a Xbox/Cube version and I had to pick up the dualshit 2.
Lincoln Hill
This was already debunked on ResetEra and by Jason Schreier. The source is a anti-Sony console warrior and the only “insiders” who tweeted about it were Microsoft. Including a guy from Windows Central. Mark Cerny has already discussed the console in a technical level in depth. They will be showing off the cooling system next. There is absolutely no way that the console is overheating with throttling clocks which can throttle down in order to run cooler. If there was a concern, Sony would have locked the locks at a lower speed. Also the SSD running hot is if no concern either. M2 SSDs run hot. Nothingburger. Microsoft’s will run hot too but Sony’s will run twice the speed and make all the difference
Brayden Miller
The handhelds were fine failure wise I hink.
Nathan Kelly
>stopped playing on PC after high school because a lot of moving around >went to consoles during college and early employment days >think I'm so fucking smart for getting a great experience at a fraction of the cost >years pass, current gen ends >PS4 is loud and slow as fuck even after cleaning it >got some games stranded on PS3 that I shudder to even turn on >Dualshock 4 can't hold a fucking charge and has that stupid light, now I don't even know if my library will be backwards compatible >want to play Control badly but it actually hurts to look at it meanwhile my media server with a 2200G and nothing else gives me a better time. listen to this fucking dude and build a PC, consoles are not fucking worth it
Robert Torres
>resetera and shreier say otherwise holy shit PS5 failing confirmed
lol in the same retardera thread the verified sony insider "matt" agreed with jez he just said it was blown a bit out of proportion. scherier is a known sony shill. he's literally best buddies with cuckmann and the guys at naughty dog. he's the guy that started this fan fiction that an ssd (a fucking ssd) will make up a raw power difference to the xbox.
Adam Allen
github didn't have any tflop for the xbox. they used HIS info about 12tf to make up the missing clocks on the github leak. you can only work out tflops with clocks and cores. the github xbox page only had cores. he said it's 12tf so digital foundry and everyone else did the math to find the clockspeed based on the cores that was shown.
Brandon Ross
>a twitter screenshot quoting a youtube screenshot am*rican retard
Ryan Lewis
Jez is european.
Wyatt Wright
>So there are several reports that PS5's are failing due to overheating
literally 2 xbox fanboys from windowscentral started the rumor on twitter
Owen Peterson
lol ps5 gonna be an atc tower
Anthony Martinez
atx even
Leo Gomez
>Resetera on damage control Its real. This is like 2013 in reverse now
Gavin Morgan
>They will be showing off the cooling system next.
so they havent shown off the cooling yet? curious.
Joseph Williams
PS3 had a pretty high failure rate. Not as bad as Xbox 360 at launch. Buckle up, babies.
Christopher Mitchell
>spencer makes a video about playing xbox without having to wear fire protective clothing
>They will be showing off the cooling system next. Says who? Cerny only said we'd see the cooling solution in a ps5 teardown presentation, doesn't mean it's next. Also, he stated that they capped the gpu at 2.3ghz, because higher clocked messed with some internal cycle timings, not because of thermals, which could go higher.
Rando twitter posts a rando screen shot from some rando.
Forum user posts tweet.
Tech website posts forum post.
Just kill these "journalists" already.
James Rogers
It never did.
The PS1's 3-D capability was outclassed by the N64.
The PS2 was less powerful than the Gamecube and Xbox
The PS3 was too obtuse for most devs to use properly and the X360 had a better GPU.
The PS4 was a shitty laptop APU from AMD.
Parker Richardson
Before that. There's a reason that Walkman is a household name.
Jason Martin
I'm talking in terms of consoles.
Yeah, other consumer electronics were great.
Ian Garcia
>Shit journalism at it's finest. >it's Ironic.
Gavin Reed
I never purported to be a journalist publishing an article. I'm typing on some shitty website while watching a YouTube video and eating peanuts.
Thomas Gomez
>the "source" is literally a youtube comment >fucking retard it's entirely possible tho: systems always struggle with cooling in the more demanding parts of a game because they consume more power and run at peak clocks. the PS5 APU tho is ALWAYS consuming peak power, and said power is distributed between the CPU and GPU depending on the task at every given time. also SSDs in general run really hot. you read about systems overheating and restarting all the time due to SSD temps. it's not out of the question that Sony' extremely fast custom solution is causing them problems. also also unlike MS and their bulky console design Sony probably went with a more compact design as they usually do. Mind you SIE's CEOs changed two years ago. Shit like this happens when new CEOs that replace really successful ones are just suits who have no clue wtf they are actually selling.
Ahhh my favorite topic: gaming revisionism. >The PS1's 3-D capability was outclassed by the N64. The PS1 had a CD player. End of story. Also PSone games aged better than N64's blurfests. >The PS2 was less powerful than the Gamecube and Xbox It was only slightly theoretically weaker than the DVDlet Gamecube. Peak PS2 games looked better than Peak Gamecube games. The xbox was an unkown brand, a year late, more expensive are made out of literal off the shelf components. >The PS3 was too obtuse for most devs to use properly and the X360 had a better GPU. peak PS3 games were on another level compared to peak 360 games. also the 360 was kill by design. >The PS4 was a shitty laptop APU from AMD. lelz. it had a slow but true 8 core CPU and a really capable GPU, all that on a very low consumption APU, a huge unified pool of very fast RAM, dedicated chip for video capture and steaming. it's literally THE most reliable by design PS to this day. and least pirated because of Sony's lawyers. all that for 399. Andrew House be blessed.
You're arguing about perception and other factors, not about the hardware capability itself. That's fine and all and there are reasons why Playstation has been a pretty strong gaming brand and had success with their consoles but none of it has to do with its technical capabilities, which was what he was talking about. They were either business or consumer oriented. Again, he is right. The Playstation has never innovated on technology, they combined existing technology wisely and in a nice package for developers and consumers.
No one with any perspective. But the internet runs on hate and journalists get paid for clickbait. They are dev kits. Dev kits are notoriously bad because they are slapped together from pre-release silicon and often using previous gen parts overclocked to give the right performance even though the real part isn't going to be available until 6 months before final release. And they are running 12 hours a day at least, probably rammed in a sweatbox of an office between the monitors and stacks of crap that litters a dev's desk. I've spoken to people who have developed actual games you've probably played going all the way back to the NES and none of them are short of hate stories for dev kits. And then the final retail hardware comes out and it's fine, apart from some normal failures that slip through QA and the extremes where some dude with a twitter account takes his brand new toy home to a literal sub-tropical swamp and sticks it in the unventilated TV unit then proceeds to farm reddit karma out of the FAILURE.
Jackson Smith
I actually think this is a good thing. Hear me out. Modern hardware is full of Boost Clocks (tm) and dynamic frequency scaling based on temps and power delivery so they get to claim all sorts of numbers even though it's right tough to get those high numbers consistently and benchmarkers pretend just averaging the results for 20 runs is somehow an indicator of performance. Then under heavy load the thing throttles and eventually pops due to repeated thermal stress. Meanwhile Sony are going balls to the wall and running it effectively 100% all the time. So once they get the cooling working for that then it's solved. Permanently. No surprises when the next Unreal4 showcase pegs all 8 cores with maximum CU throughput and AVX2 going because it was never based on "average" use, but always 100%.
Jack Parker
>They will be showing off the cooling system next In other words we still know if the PS5 is fucked or not
Elijah Baker
>You're arguing about perception and other factors bitch please. your neckbeard mental gymnastics mean nothing. the psone was instrumental to bringing 3D graphics to the mainstream. optical as an industry standard for data storage and dual analogue sticks for movement in an 3D game. something that nintendo included as standard 15 years later with the Switch. I bet you believe Nintendo invented usb-c ports lol.
Lincoln Ward
>Literally every console they've released had problems. saying it doesn't make it so. none of the problems you sporadically read about with PS consoles were ever statistically significant. especially the PS4 is the most reliable PS console literally ever. early PS3s were literally frying when trying to play TLOU.
Christopher Hall
>They will be showing off the cooling system next
So Sony is holding information about the cooling system and the PS5 final design, with is consistent to what that guy said about the overheating problem. Well, now that isn't suspicious at all.
Evan Long
>especially the PS4 is the most reliable PS console literally ever Hey my PS1s and PS2 failed but at least they didn't sound like jet engines
Jason Barnes
Carmack always wins. Even without participating in the console race, he still comes out on top.