>steals from thief
>is still original and even arguably better
How did they do this?
>steals from thief
>is still original and even arguably better
How did they do this?
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They listened to hundreds of hours of conspiracy talk radio and ran with everything.
>steals
I thought it was the same key people involved. maybe I'm thinking of system shock.
>Steal ideas
>Steal the men that have those ideas
What's the difference?
>Deu Sex
>Conspiracy
Chose one
It's the latter.
WUD A SHAME FUGGG :-DDDDDDDDD
Different studio and the only person who was involved with Thief was admittingly only part halfway at the end of development, Warren Spector
*smacks lips*
>stealing from the stealing game
ive been trying to play this game but its so dark is there a way to fix this?
take a picture of the screen let us see how Dark the game is
Why does Daikatana look the same with the same company but wound up so much fucking worse?
Up the contrast
The game is bugged on modern OSs, especially the Steam version. Brightness is broken.
Download Kentie's Dx10 launcher for Deus Ex, install it, configure, then launch the game like normal. The game will be playable then.
ion storm dallas was effectively a different company under Romero. They were extremely dysfunctional and slacked off apparently. Spector has defended them, though.
Also play vanilla first before any mods, including GMDX or Revision. Those both improve the game in several different ways but they both also have their own issues. Revision has improved a lot over the years but still fundamentally flawed.
By being uncomfortably prescient.
alright thanks
I could never get into this game because it never felt like I was talking to real people. Sure, Paul of the NSF leader might know his stuff but when even normal NPCs start spouting Wikipedia paragraphs about Rockefeller or something like that it completely breaks my immersion.
You're not wrong. The dialogue is awful, almost every line in a conversation is completely detached from the next.
The only way to make it bearable is to treat is as the b-flick it is.
the best game stories embrace their inherent b-flick nature while also exploring much bigger ideas
Good artists copy, great artists steal ;)
>black JC
Well because they didn't steal those men. They hired them, they didn't kidnap and enslave them (afaik).
I've played it like 20 times by now. It's important to change things up.
But Albino JC is the true patrician choice.
oh my god jc it's a bomb am i right lol
lol true
Personally I think Thief is FAR better than Deus Ex.
Y GONDAIN ID? :DDD
Pottery.
Funny how when you look at all the games this one can still claim to be the goat
I didn't like thief that much. instead of being about stealing shit it was more exploring huge areas while occasionally hiding from guards but more often fighting dinosaurs and ghosts and shit. the level design in deus ex was more focused and kept you more on track with what you were supposedly doing.
>>is still original and even arguably better
It's not that hard. Just study how the thing you're ripping off works and then think of how it can be improved upon.
Thief's stealth is miles better than Deus Ex. I usually ghost through a mission if stealth is an option, but with Deus Ex I don't even bother.
The level design is supposed to take you off track in a way. You're a thief, generally the people you're stealing from don't want people stealing from them. You have to use information gleamed from the environment to locate and secure your objective.
The Thief games, especially the first one, inspire this genuine feeling of uneasiness whenever I go down a cave, or tomb or whatever. I actually feel like I'm intruding into a place I'm not supposed to go.
I don't think any other game about infiltration has ever managed to get that feeling across as effectively as the Thief series has.
like I said it's more about exploring big areas instead of any kind of targeted burglary. even the simplest maps have you just wandering around instead of sneaking in and out.
Thank you. I see so many posts in Deus Ex threads of people trying out the game for the first time, complaining it's dark, and then have other anons incorrectly state that they just need to turn the brightness up.
I've been meaning to make an image showing the best way to set the game up on modern hardware and posting it in Deus Ex threads but I'm too lazy to put it together.
GOTYAY
I'd say the burglary is targeted. You know what you're after, you know who you're taking it from, and sometimes there's even motives beyond just monetary gain. It's just that the targets you go after are pretty big.
The game would always be dark if you don't set your renderer to dx10
compare it to the hitman games where you know exactly who you're going to kill and can mostly plan out where you want to go and how from the start of the level. in thief you get handed a napkin drawing or nothing at all and are expected to poke around every corner of the map trying to find shit or just not get lost.
Who ARE these people!??
KILLEM!
And both of those scenarios make sense within the context of their own games. In Hitman you're a genetically engineered assassin backed by what's basically the Illuminati, Agent 47 can get whatever information he wants on a whim, and can use it however he wants to. In Thief, you're some random bumfuck who met a guy at a bar who interned for a summer at the place you're robbing. The worlds they inhabit and the resources available to the characters are wildly different, it's only expected that Garrett has a harder time getting a hold of information than Agent 47. It's fine if you don't like the sort of problem solving that Thief requires, but it's not a fault of the game.
Pardon me, but BACK IN ALABAMA... A guy with a TATTOOED FOREHEAD is gonna get us all KILLED
in da fresh
Hope you picked śöylentgreen
fucking CLASSIC gif
anyone know the origin of this?
I pirated thief 1-3. And thief simulator to boot, just for the irony.
I always picked ninja for that xxxtra dark edge factor
Any good total conversions? I have already done TNM.
i tried this but couldnt get the renderer kentie had on his website running on my pc. i just tried out every renderer available in the launcher until i could see something but this had the side effect of some visual glitches
>I see so many posts in Deus Ex threads of people trying out the game for the first time, complaining it's dark, and then have other anons incorrectly state that they just need to turn the brightness up.
You can google the fucking thing, that's why we mess with you
the point I'm trying to make is that the "problem solving" is more in line with tomb raider than it is a game about a thief. the level design is clearly built around exploration, not just finding an optimal route to sneak in and out.
what should I know before playing this for the first time?
pick the gep gun but stick with the prod
Those guys were all bros.
invest in swimming